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Was Ayn Rand a prophet, or scapegoat?
The Free Lance-Star (Fredericksburg, Va.) ^ | Dec 2009 | Jennifer Burns

Posted on 12/13/2009 1:02:29 PM PST by rface

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — Ayn Rand is back. In the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, the long-dead novelist and philosopher has become prophet and a scapegoat. Liberals blame her for the economic collapse, citing the influence of her most famous acolyte, Alan Greenspan. Conservatives hail her as a visionary who saw it all coming. Love her or hate her, Rand's ideas have become fundamental to how Americans understand capitalism.

The liberal case against Rand rests on her relationship with Alan Greenspan, the long-term head of the Federal Reserve Bank. In his youth, Greenspan was part of "The Collective," a small group of students who gathered around Rand in the 1950s and 1960s in New York City. A regular visitor to Rand's Saturday night salon, he read the first drafts of Rand's most famous novel, "Atlas Shrugged," as they came off her typewriter. He quickly mastered the fundamentals of Objectivism, her individualistic philosophy. Rand taught that reality is objective, reason rules supreme, selfishness is a virtue, and laissez-faire capitalism is the only moral and practical social system.

In a series of articles written for Rand's Objectivist Newsletter, Greenspan applied these ideas to current politics. .......

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The record-breaking sales of Rand's books in the last year suggest her influence may be just beginning. Many readers are turning to Rand to understand our past - but she may be a better guide to our future.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcclatchydc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aynrand; aynrandlist; ayrandlist; rand
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To: RushingWater

Was she an atheist? It has always been hard for me to get beyond that.

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Yes imagine that an atheist with principles.


21 posted on 12/13/2009 1:27:37 PM PST by restornu (Atonement; Christ doesnÂ’t just make up the difference. He makes all the difference. ~ Brad Wilcox)
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To: Tail Gunner John
I cannot believe that any Hollywood/Angelina Jolie adaptation of Rand's work would in any way resemble the novel.

You're definitely on the right track. I'll be astonished if it's anything other than Progressive spin.

22 posted on 12/13/2009 1:30:23 PM PST by Bernard Marx ("Civilizations die by suicide, not from murder" Toynbee)
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To: restornu
She convinced people to let the oppressors have their way using a false outcome.

Doesn’t sound like morals to me...but it does sound like a plan.

23 posted on 12/13/2009 1:31:26 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Earthdweller

I was thinking more in the line of captialism.

On social issues she is clueless!


24 posted on 12/13/2009 1:39:40 PM PST by restornu (Atonement; Christ doesnt just make up the difference. He makes all the difference. ~ Brad Wilcox)
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To: rface

Ann Rand is neither.

She is the author of a very relevant book.

(I find it interesting that her entire belief system is interesting to some people. It seems those same people are not interested in the beleif system of Margret Sanger and certain people on the left.)


25 posted on 12/13/2009 1:41:59 PM PST by earlJam
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To: rface
She was an extremly ugly woman.


26 posted on 12/13/2009 1:44:50 PM PST by humblegunner (™)
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To: restornu
Exactly. She taps into capitalist thinking to let the socialist aspect take over on a global level. Pure Capitalists are very poorly armed to do real social battle.

What will save this country, if it is saved, are those who are well versed in social combat...in other words liberals who have come to know a higher logic and can help capitalism survive.

27 posted on 12/13/2009 1:46:24 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: rface
I wouldn't trust Hollywood to accurately make this movie...Somehow, they will spin it to make the rats look good.


28 posted on 12/13/2009 1:57:16 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Aggie Mama; alarm rider; alexander_busek; AlligatorEyes; AmericanGirlRising; ...

This article is less about Rand and more about Greenspan, but it’s an interesting one nonetheless.


29 posted on 12/13/2009 2:01:17 PM PST by Publius (Do you want the people who run Amtrak to take out your appendix?)
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To: ModelBreaker

Oh no, teenagers should never read her. It will stunt their mental growth and they will stop thinking and turn into libertarians and republicans. Their answer to every problem will be “less gov’t” and “lower taxes” and they will be completely worthless to the human race.

Rand, if she should be read at all, should only be by grown ups.

parsy, who thinks she has done more evil than most


30 posted on 12/13/2009 2:11:02 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: humblegunner

She looks like a million other women from that time period; not necessarily attractive but not repulsive either. Extremely ugly? Seems a bit harsh to me... Gotta love the net though, bantering over the looks of a dead person. ;o)


31 posted on 12/13/2009 2:11:40 PM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
To be a witch (or wizard) you have to have a spiritual side.

You're probably right. Maybe I got "soul-less bitch" confused with "witch". ;-)

32 posted on 12/13/2009 2:15:53 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: freepersup
She looks like a million other women from that time period; not necessarily attractive but not repulsive either. Extremely ugly? Seems a bit harsh to me... Gotta love the net though, bantering over the looks of a dead person. ;o)

LOL, how many words have been written wondering what Cleopatra really looked like.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-701-s&va=cleopatra&sz=all

33 posted on 12/13/2009 2:23:44 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: rface

Ayn Rand was pretty much hated by the media (MSM). Therefore I’d say a scapegoat.

But if you really read her works (which the MSM would never think of doing before reviewing it) pretty close to a prophet.


34 posted on 12/13/2009 2:23:55 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: org.whodat

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-701-s&va=cleopatra&sz=all


35 posted on 12/13/2009 2:23:58 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: freepersup

Not that I would compare worthless Rand to a great women like Cleopatra. The only comparison would be an ugly duck to a Swan.


36 posted on 12/13/2009 2:27:35 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat
I guess I'm going to have to read some of her works, what with the divergent views of her in this 30 some post thread, ranging from accolades to seething contempt. I'm (now) intrigued enough to obtain her signature novel.
37 posted on 12/13/2009 2:34:45 PM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: K-oneTexas

There’s quite a few haters of Ayn Rand onboard today; what gives? FWIW: I’ve yet to taste of the forbidden fruit.


38 posted on 12/13/2009 2:38:53 PM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: freepersup
If you don't die of boredom , you might like it.
39 posted on 12/13/2009 2:40:10 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: K-oneTexas
"Ayn Rand was pretty much hated by the media (MSM)."

Keep in mind...in her day, the media was dominated by right wing Capitalists. If her ideas come out to the main stream now, it won't help Capitalism per say..but the new left wing brand of distorted fascist Capitalism.

40 posted on 12/13/2009 2:42:48 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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