Posted on 12/12/2009 2:12:20 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007
The voices are there but are not heard on the MSM. The political far left and the MSM have become a corrupt ruling class.I am appalled at the lack of voices from the real sciences calling people on this climate garbage
"The press" of the founding era consisted of numerous fractiously independent printers whose business was, like the radio talk show host today, primarily about publishing their own perspective on news. Lacking the telegraph, they didn't necessarily have dramatically faster access to news than the general public had. Most newspapers were weeklies.THE THIRD ESTATE HAS BECOME A FIFTH COLUMN.The telegraph and the Associated Press changed the business model of the newspaper. Suddenly, the newspaper was about "news" - and the newspaper had an interest in your believing reports of the AP newswire originated by other newspapers. "The press" has not been independent since. And that is why we have homogeneous leftism coming from all news sources.
- First Estate - Clergy
- Second Estate - Nobility
- Third Estate - the people
- "Fourth Estate" - the press
Thanks for your correction about me calling the fourth estate the third estate. My fingers were faster than my brain. But the press is damn well a fifth column.
(grin!) Thanks, FRiend!
Ah yes, our wizards at work again. I wonder if Leshner threw some colored power in the fire before making these pronouncements. Scientists have become the laughing stock of thinking people, right-thinking people that is. The only problem is, they have turned our youth into walking, talking gloom and doom propaganda machines.
This blows my mind, that someone who claims to be a scientist is unable and unwilling to see the obvious.
Given enough time I am sure that every diverse and distinct line of study is either founded on the manufactured data or a deriverative of other studies founded on the manufactured data.
In other words, worthless.
A final major irritation... "prestigious and respected" scientific organizations are 100% political, hence worthless as science "proof."
Whether thse organizations represent "millions" of scientists is irrelevant.
Next time I see " 24 most respected scientists" I will scream. Without names, that is worse than a lie,
It's Bullshit!"*
All of them have jumped the shark. Some decades ago, even before the Fonz invented the term:
Scientific American and National Geographic come to mind.
In the 50s and early 60s I subscribed to a half dozen "Science" magazines and journals.
Starting in the early 70s, with the inception of EPA, EQA, ESA and the ADA etc., the politization of science, my subscriptions quickly dwindled to --- zero.
I have this aversion to being tricked into, or forced to pay for propaganda.
That perspective is a definite keeper -- and worth repeating!
Here’s a little tidbit for you regarding the “greenhouse effect”: without a PHYSICAL BARRIER, there CANNOT be such a thing. It’s only that the glass prevents the air from rising naturally to higher altitudes to lose its heat to other air and/or space that causes said “greenhouse” events.
Having lived on the northern prairie, I know that the greenhouse effect is real, but it does require a physical barrier to KEEP the warm air IN!
OH, BTW, CO2 is airborne plant food!
Just as we have historians still trying to figure out why the Civil War Happened we will have folks going through this stuff trying to figure out why we had “the next war”. Abuse of authority has generally been the reason for revolution and here it is.
My point about the Associated Press, tho, is precisely that we do not have a free press in America. We have an "associated" press - and that association destroys independence.We grew up thinking we had many sources of news, just as we have thought that we had "independent peer review" of our science. Well, the Climategate emails put paid to the idea that "peer review" is necessarily independent review - and in reality our "free" press is not an independent press.
Once the press is homogenized, anyone who thinks of politics as a business opportunity had every incentive to align themselves with that prevailing propaganda wind. A propaganda wind which first promotes journalism, which is does nothing but talk - and then promotes everyone else who does nothing but talk and criticize people who take responsibility to get things done.
Journalism criticizes and second guesses businessmen, the police, the military - as a means of promoting themselves and the union leaders, plaintiff lawyers, and everyone else who is like the journalist. Including, most especially, the politicians upon whom journalists bestow the positive labels such as "progressive" and "liberal."
"Anthropogenic Global Warming" is simply one more avenue by which journalism and its allies can attack those who don't join in their complaint brigade. So no one should marvel that AGW "scientists" can no more do wrong in the eyes of journalists than Barak Obama can.
BTTT
Science and Nature have both jumped the shark.
Academia and the science field, especially the publications have a pretty sweet deal going.
As the Leftist professors slowly took over the tenured positions in the universities they were able to effectively screen out conservatives from tenure. They also, through grants and further influence, have those professors and their cronies do their expected publishing of academic work through friendly Leftist publications for peer review. With such an incestuous arrangement it is easy to propagate false science.
I, like you, noticed it in articles in Science and Nature> not so much what the articles said, although that too, but more in what they decided to publish and not publish.
That’s the reason that I dropped my AAAS membership after 30+ years. Science and Nature have both jumped the shark.
Science and Nature have both jumped the shark.
Academia and the science field, especially the publications have a pretty sweet deal going.
As the Leftist professors slowly took over the tenured positions in the universities they were able to effectively screen out conservatives from tenure. They also, through grants and further influence, have those professors and their cronies do their expected publishing of academic work through friendly Leftist publications for peer review. With such an incestuous arrangement it is easy to propagate false science.
I, like you, noticed it in articles in Science and Nature not so much what the articles said, although that too, but more in what they decided to publish and not publish.
BUMP-TO-THE-TOP!
Nicely stated as usual, my friend.
Now...the thing's been defined ad nauseum; so, the question's how may it be helped to die faster? ;^) LOL
Well, what aught to happen is that they should have their socks sued off! But the question is, who will do it? I've wondered if Rush might find himself needing to do it, when they get to trying Fairness Doctrine tricks . . . He at least has deep pockets.
Couldn't agree more.
"But the question is, who will do it? I've wondered if Rush might find himself needing to do it, when they get to trying Fairness Doctrine tricks...He at least has deep pockets."
Funny.
How many NFP legal firms are out there, working on a wing & a prayer, sue every day/week/month on behalf of Liberal-Socialist-Communist causes?
Plenty.
Surely the Right-wing has an abundance of un and/or underemployed legal beagles ready, willing & able to challenge so much of the zerO's agenda any part or all of which is clearly unconstitutional.
Obviously, not enough pain yet my friend. ;^)
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