[reaganaut1]

Maybe we shouldn't cripple the domestic energy sources that *do* work.

[LibFreeOrDie]

extract vast amounts of renewable energy from deep, hot bedrock

You mean the center of the earth is not millions of degrees hot? Al Gore is deeply saddened!

[Jeff Chandler]

“What we’ve discovered is that it’s harder to make those improvements than some people believed,” he added.

Apply this result to all the other blue sky technologies.

[Jeff Chandler]

Maybe we shouldn't cripple the domestic energy sources that *do* work.

But then we would be killing the Earth with CO2 fumes.

[reaganaut1]

Related thread: Quake Threat Leads Swiss to Close Geothermal Project.

[skr]

The project’s apparent collapse comes a day after Swiss government officials permanently shut down a similar project in Basel, because of the damaging earthquakes it produced in 2006 and 2007.

It's known that this process produces eathquakes and Obama's administration okayed the project anyway?

[bray]

Rather than the taxpayers paying for these boondoggles why not let oil drill for our own? Oh yeah, might save the Auto Industry.

Pray for America’s Freedom

[texmexis best]

Man oh man, between geothermal getting shut down, ethanol plants shutting down and windpower projects being canceled alternative power appears to be going down the ole terlet.

Geez, will someone start drilling?

[sinanju]

The earthquake thing.

No company is going to expose itself to that kind of liability, whether or not any cheap energy is forthcoming.

[bert]

For therecord......

Geothermal Energy in California
photo of Geysers Geothermal Plants

Because of its location on the Pacific’s “ring of fire” and because of tectonic plate conjunctions, California contains the largest amount of geothermal generating capacity in the United States.

In 2007, geothermal energy in our state produced 13,000 gigawatt-hours of electricity. Combined with another 440 GWh of imported geothermal electricity, then geothermal energy produced 4.5 percent of the state’s total system power. A total of 43 operating geothermal power plants with an installed capacity of nearly 1,800 megawatts are in California, about two-thirds of the total United States’ geothermal generation.

The largest concentration of geothermal plants is located north of San Francisco in the Geysers Geothermal Resource Area in Napa and Sonoma Counties. This location has been producing electricity since the 1960s. It uses dry steam; one of only two places in the world for this resource (the other being in Larderello, Italy).

[DesScorp]

There’s no such thing as a free lunch... or free energy.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

*** the two setbacks could change the direction of the Obama administration’s geothermal program, which had raised hopes that the earth’s bedrock could be quickly tapped as a clean and almost limitless energy source. ***

Back during the Jimmy Carter admin there was plans to build a geothermal power plant in New Mexico. Test hole were drilled, estimates of the ammount of steam were made, a turbine/generator was purchased, all was GO!
When done there was not enough steam to roll the turbine! A couple of years later I saw all the equipment for sale in Power Engineering Magazine.

[PubliusMM]

Hmmm, suppose any of that equipment could be put to use drilling for oil? In the US?

Just sayin’

[FrankR]

200 years of progress on the energy front, and in the last 30 a bunch of environuts think they have a better idea on how to do it.

Don't get me wrong, that's a great idea/dream...but go out into your own garage, use your own money...perfect it, and then put it out on the open market. But we - as taxpayers - are tired of funding your grade-school science projects.

Hillary let the cat out of the bag about energy - it's not about the environment - it's out of lib-envy for how much money the oil companies are supposedly making...AND THE LIBS CAN'T GET THEIR HANDS ON IT. Follow the money.

The left could give a hoot about the environment, or at least that's the impression they give because everything they come up with to "help" the environment involves either:

A) A government grant;
B) A Tax;
C) Regulation

They have a dog in the environment hunt, but it is the money connected with it...proof: climate changes.

I've thought and thought, but can't come up with too many things the EPA has done to really help the environment. They've been around forever, and they still whine about the "dirty air"...well why don't they have it all cleaned up by now?

America has done more to clean up the environment than anyone, yet the world still expects us to carry the load.

When it comes to energy, the left doesn't have a better mousetrap, they just have the power to force us to buy their mousetraps...the ones that won't catch mice.

[Mannaggia l'America]

[Godzilla]

Geothermal enthusiasts . . . .

Which I consider myself as one, as well as a oil, gas and nuke enthusiast. However, one must have certain conditions for the development of geothermal resources such as a relatively shallow heat source and controllable water chemistry. It is not the cure all.

[TigersEye]

Seismic activity near a geothermal site? Whoda thunk it? /s

[theBuckwheat]

I have always had hope (but no change) that geothermal would be a “sustainable” source of energy. However, as every realist knows, HOPE IS NOT A PLAN. To that aphorism, I have noticed that while socialists love to propose all manner of “sustainable” schemes, the “sustainable” part has to do with how they can game, spin and lie about the intangibles yet how they never can bring themselves to be tied to facts, rules and logic that cannot be gamed, spun or distorted.

Socialism cannot give us “sustainable” anything except perpetual hype and hope, for economist Ludwig von Mises showed in several articles and papers that socialists cannot compute. More correctly, since socialism as an economic system distorts economic information, it cannot know how to economically allocate finite resources. As a result it allocates resources based on political or ideological criteria.

Thus, we see that in a time of record government budget deficits, it is just as important to spend money to maintain the GPS satellite system as it is to spend $54 million on a tourist train in California's wine country, and spending $2.2 million to improve the warehouse owned by the state of Montana's liquor agency.

We can bolster the economy by taking money from families (with a median income of $50,233) and use it to create one federal job (average salary $70+k). When we have to consume the entire earnings of more than one family to create a single job, we are running as fast as we can to national bankruptcy.

We can only keep up this foolishness as long as people are willing to lend us the money to do it. Then our only recourse is to destroy the value of that debt via hyper-inflation so we can avoid becoming insolvent.

If we don't throw these bums out and quick, our ship is going to sink right out from under us. If these bums think that destroying the current system is their path to power so we would allow them to fix it with a new socialist utopia, we are going to have to start measuring our answer in grains, like in 180 grain units.

Please read: Economic Calculation In The Socialist Commonwealth By Ludwig von Mises

Postscript: Why a Socialist Economy is "Impossible" by Joseph T. Salerno

both are found at www.mises.org

Google: socialist calculation debate

[TexasFreeper2009]

amazing... all the unproven green technology just keeps failing !

/s

[HighlyOpinionated]

Professor Schrag said. “What we’ve discovered is that it’s harder to make those improvements than some people believed,” he added.

So why does the Professor think that God put all that COAL in the earth? And the oil? And the water? God certainly didn't expect man to make life harder on himself with the intelligence God gave him. I have a distinct notion that God laughs at Liberals as much as Conservatives do.

Here's proof:
לָ֭מָּה רָגְשׁ֣וּ גֹויִ֑ם וּ֝לְאֻמִּ֗ים יֶהְגּוּ־ רִֽיק׃
Psalm 2:1 Why have the Gentiles raged, and the people devised vain things? 2 The kings of the earth stood up, and the princes met together, against the Lord, and against his Christ. 3 Let us break their bonds asunder: and let us cast away their yoke from us. 4 He that dwells in heaven shall laugh at them: and the Lord shall deride them. 5 Then shall He speak to them in His anger, and trouble them in His rage.

Maybe we should use this on one of the signs we carry in DC next time.

[neverdem]

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