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1 posted on 12/08/2009 7:31:59 AM PST by IrishMike
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Climategate rundown (extensive)
Ping me if you find one I've missed.


Hansen needs to be dragged out in tar and feathers..
2 posted on 12/08/2009 7:33:38 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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Hansen is calling Copenhagan a farce because they are not using his new scheme to extort money from us. He thinks cap and trade will reward Wall Street and not have enough incentives to reduce CO2. He favors a “fee and dividend” plan that charges CO2 emitters and gives that money back to the public depending on their ability to reduce their carbon footprint.

It is his ego and his dogma that is calling Copenhagan a farce


3 posted on 12/08/2009 7:37:00 AM PST by Til I am the last man standing (It's the internet Senators; We can see what you are doing!)
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His job is to destroy NASA. Based on his rantings he is sure giving the Goddard Space Org a BAAAD name.


4 posted on 12/08/2009 7:39:28 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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Was Hansen the man who was Al Gore's teacher at Harvard? The man who later renounced Global Warming as a fraud? - the REAL father of this mess? I thought he had died? Or is Hansen the liberals "stand in" for the father of this mess ??

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When was the last time you heard a scientist get hysterical when you asked him to explain Einstein's theory of relativity?

If you ask a scientist why nothing can move faster than the speed of light, he doesn't tell you a terrible story about how koala bears will die if you don't believe the theory is right, does he?

Scientists who are confident and in command of the facts don't need to distort data and duck basic questions about the assumptions that are behind scientific theories.

John Hawkins

5 posted on 12/08/2009 7:53:13 AM PST by GOPJ (Climategate-Who do YOU trust? MSM journalists-Used car salesmen-Alarmist scientists-None of above?)
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bttt


7 posted on 12/08/2009 7:59:30 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child who's got his own." Arthur Herzog Jr./Billie Holiday)
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Everyone can see it now.

Well, almost everyone.


8 posted on 12/08/2009 8:07:48 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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I want a check for having a piddly carbon footprint. Fork it over!


11 posted on 12/08/2009 8:19:14 AM PST by synbad600
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

14 posted on 12/08/2009 8:56:19 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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Meanwhile two recent results published by top scientists cast doubt on the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's theory about the link between atmospheric carbon dioxide and global warming. These are of of significance because whereas the climate models used by the IPCC rely on software to represent a large number of highly complex Earth processes, these results are equivalent to experimental observations on the Earth itself.

Paul Pearson of Cardiff University and his international team achieved a breakthrough recently, published four weeks ago in arguably the world's top scientific journal, Nature. . . .
Pearson's work contains a couple of remarkable results.

First the greenhouse atmosphere pre-cooling contained a CO2 concentration of 900 parts per million by volume, or more than three times that of the Earth in pre-industrial days.

Am I reading this wrong, or did Nature actually print something that undercuts AGW? I thought Nature was well and truly in the satchel! The other "contrarian" paper appeared in Energy and Environment, which IIRC is not one of the favored few.

15 posted on 12/08/2009 9:07:01 AM PST by maryz
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as Nobel prize winning physicist Richard Feynman observed:

"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."

20 posted on 12/08/2009 10:10:41 AM PST by SouthTexas (God Bless our Fort Hood Troops)
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If the Earth started a cycle of ice ages 33.6 million years ago while having its very carbon-rich atmosphere, and if the Earth showed cycles of ice-age activity when atmospheric CO2 was four times the level that it was in humankind's pre-industrial times, what new information must we incorporate into our present climate models?

The result of their analysis is a CO2-induced amplification factor close to one, which has implications clearly at odds with the earlier IPCC position.... What this means is that the IPCC model for climate sensitivity is not supported by experimental observation on ancient ice ages and recent satellite data.

What a relief...conclusions supported by real data. In my gloomier moods, I wonder how long it'll be before real scientists are smeared out of the field entirely. It's not as hard as it looks if the genuine article is close to retirement age and the imposters are on the verge of taking over the temple...

26 posted on 12/08/2009 1:54:39 PM PST by danielmryan
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The audacity and hypocrisy of these batchit crazy people is the stuff of gaping gazes. I just can’t believe the discourse has devolved to this. Science is now consensus. Facts shouted down. Serious questions ridiculed.

Unbelievable.


30 posted on 12/08/2009 4:20:32 PM PST by IamConservative (Liberty is all a good man needs to succeed.)
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