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Sarah Palin Flip-Flops on Obama Birth Certificate
US News and World Report ^ | 12/4/09 | Robert Schlesinger

Posted on 12/04/2009 10:02:44 AM PST by pissant

Sarah Palin scrambled away from the birther movement last night after giving them a wink and a nod on a conservative radio talk show yesterday. Posting on her Facebook page at 1:16am, Palin writes that, "at no point – not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews – have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States." She tries to dismiss her birther flirtation as just an acknowledgment of voters' right to know: "Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child."

Well ... three problems with her explanation.

First, here's what she said when asked if she would raise the birth certificate issue in a presidential campaign (emphasis mine):

I think the public rightfully is still making it an issue. I don't have a problem with that. I don't know if I would have to bother to make it an issue, because I think that members of the electorate still want answers.

The key word there is "rightfully," which in this context means that it is right--as in correct or proper--to ask the question. She didn't say that the public has the right to ask, she said that it's right for the public to ask. That's an Alaska-sized difference.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; obroma; palin; pds; stuffwarsmadeof
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To: BP2

Well, that’s that, then....


201 posted on 12/04/2009 12:56:54 PM PST by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: stockpirate
Huffpo readers go crazy with over 8600 comments (mostly uninformed drivel)...for more than even Tiger and his mistresses!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/03/palin-goes-birther-obama_n_379634.html

202 posted on 12/04/2009 12:57:21 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: ejonesie22

Yes you are. And you possess way more patience than I.


203 posted on 12/04/2009 1:00:10 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Aw shucks...


204 posted on 12/04/2009 1:02:28 PM PST by ejonesie22
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To: mountainbunny
If it is enough to say that she “must” have presented it because there is no proof she didn't, congratulations:”

But that's just the point.
You assumed she hadn't, with no evidence whatsoever to back it up.
Meanwhile, you can't site any of the journalist who descended upon her doctor and her lawyer, where they say said they never saw the birth certificate of her son before dropping the story.

You have just made Barack Obama’s argument for him. His supporters say that he doesn't need to prove it, either.”

When did Trigg run for president of the United States?
Perhaps you will show me where it says in the constitution that the baby son of a US Vice Presidential candidate should be a natural born citizen yes?

205 posted on 12/04/2009 1:02:30 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Peter Horry

I understand that reading comprehension is hard.

I understand that picking one sentence out of several posts in a feeble attempt to make your argument is tempting.

I do not understand why you can’t admit you are wrong since I very clearly repeatedly stated that I would not show his records if he were my child and that I don’t think she should show it.

She is in the same boat because she was asked to show the records and didn’t, just as he has been asked.

If you can’t understand why this is a demonstrably bad argument - to say Sarah Palin did something that she did not do and to try to use it as a club to whack Obama with (she showed it so he should, too), I can’t help you.

All I can do is suggest you sit back and bask in the golden glory of the massive success that this type of wrong thinking has brought the BC movement so far.


206 posted on 12/04/2009 1:08:25 PM PST by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this huckster?)
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To: mountainbunny

She said that she produced the evidence about Trig though she really didn’t have to just to satisfy people like Andrew Sullivan and the Kos crowd.


207 posted on 12/04/2009 1:12:09 PM PST by Scanian
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To: BP2
Interesting.

So that was the team that validated the Obama Certification of Live Birth.

208 posted on 12/04/2009 1:15:47 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: mountainbunny

>>>Did Sarah Palin ever show her son’s birth certificate and their medical records? If I recall correctly, even though weasels like Andrew Sullivan demanded them, she did not.

Well, several of the Alaska blogs have noted her failure to produce the BC, as has Andrew Sullivan. Given their leftward bias you may choose to ignore those sources, but I don’t see anyone posting information to contradict them.

http://www.themudflats.net/2009/12/04/palin-is-a-birther-yes-really/
““Which we have done?” Link please? I thought not. Unless there was some super-secret certificate releasing press conference of which the entire state was unaware, I believe that the Trig birth certificate has not been shared. Her own medical records were not even shared. A generic “she’s healthy” letter from her doctor was finally released very late in the campaign, but that’s it.”

http://breepalin.blogspot.com/2009/12/where-is-birth-certificate.html
“So Palin is saying that he should show his because she has shown hers. Except she hasn’t!”


209 posted on 12/04/2009 1:21:55 PM PST by NC28203
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To: mountainbunny

“She is in the same boat because she was asked to show the records and didn’t, just as he has been asked.”

You still don’t seem to comprehend the difference between complying with a legal/constitutional requirement and press inquiries. I can’t help you with that, won’t even try.


210 posted on 12/04/2009 1:24:46 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

No, they probably realize that to remove the fraud at this point would cause a national civil war. Is the constitution really worth all that death and destruction?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Just ask our Founding Fathers about death and destruction.

If it was worth death and destruction to establish the Constitution, it is worth death and destruction to defend and uphold it!


211 posted on 12/04/2009 1:34:45 PM PST by wintertime
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To: EyeGuy

Robert Schlesinger , the author of this hit piece is the author of a book given high fives by Tom Brokaw and the usual list of Liberals


212 posted on 12/04/2009 1:37:06 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: GI Joe Fan

I have noticed that many high profile Conservatives (Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc) tend to avoid any and all discussions on the Fraud In Chief’s Constitutional validity.

Why do they avoid the issue altogether?


Because and only because there was a newspaper announcement in the local paper of Obama’s birth. If anyone can convince me that handlers knew back then that Obama would become president OR hackers could possibly fabricate the announcement decades later, then I’ll also believe the Great One is a fraud. A legitimate newspaper announcement just like an obit, is real to me. I absolutely detest this amateur but I believe he was born in Hawaii. Why he doesn’t produce the birth certificate is beyond me except that maybe he is hiding something that is on it that he doesn’t like - like maybe the father’s name or something.


213 posted on 12/04/2009 2:11:45 PM PST by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: New Jersey Realist
Why he doesn’t produce the birth certificate is beyond me except that maybe he is hiding something that is on it that he doesn’t like - like maybe the father’s name or something.

Also because letting this nonsense fester helps his side. It's like having an army of trolls disrupting every conservative site on the Net.

214 posted on 12/04/2009 2:24:16 PM PST by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: pissant
I don't think she flip-flopped. The problem was that she didn't articulate her position well on the radio show, probably because it was an argument she seemed to be making up as she went along.

Her statement on Facebook was better stated, and it's clear she's not on the side of the birthers. She's exactly where she should be.

215 posted on 12/04/2009 2:29:20 PM PST by Kleon
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To: Cyropaedia; steve-b; jamese777; mountainbunny; newfreep; GI Joe Fan; LucyT; pissant; STARWISE; ...

Interesting.

So that was the team that validated the Obama Certification of Live Birth.



YEP, here's the FactCheck team that Team Obama hand-picked for the Obama Certification of Life Birth validation on August 21, 2008.
Nice hair, huh?


Let me rewind the clock to recall some of the happenings since then:

The MSM and Leftist blogosphere bought off on Jess & Joe's
“expert assessment” IMMEDIATELY.

Pelosi signed the DNC Certification(s) a week later on August 28, 2008.

The Senate, Secretaries of state and the Electors FELL IN LINE after the election in December 2008 through January 2009.

REALLY, who would dare OPENLY question the first black President who seemed so loved by supporters around the time of the Inauguration?! If they DARED oppose Obama on such a question, they MOST SURELY would have been called a RACIST or a NUT, just as others who questioned Obama's credentials have been maligned! "Just give the man a chance," and "It's about time we had a black president," were some of the many mantras the MSM & other Obot enablers kept repeating earlier this year.

And with a little help from Rep. Abercrombie of Hawaii, Pelosi, Reid and other schills running interference along the way who have MUCH to gain — and EVERYTHING to LOSE if there IS a TRUE and VALID investigation of Obama's eligibility (via his birth certificate and/or his FATHER's British citizenship) ...
... kinda like those who would profit from "global warming" ...

... well, HERE we are in December 2009.


No collusion or conspiracy there, right?

"Crackpottery" indeed, steve-b!


216 posted on 12/04/2009 3:05:15 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Two weeks ago the Indiana Court of Appeals ruled that both John McCain and Barack Obama are Natural Born Citizens with regard to Article 2, Section 1 of the US Constitution. The case was Ankeny v. The Governor of Indiana. The Appeals Court’s decision and rationale can be read in all its glorious legalese here: (Scroll down to section “B” of the decision entitled “Natural Born Citizen”):
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/ankeny-v-gov-of-indiana-natural-born-defined-born-on-us-soil-regardless-of-citizenship-parents/#more-7312


217 posted on 12/04/2009 4:21:55 PM PST by jamese777
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To: pissant

Corsi to follow Palin on Obama eligibility

Interviews put birth certificate back on front burner

Humphries’ interview of Corsi on “The Rusty Humphries Show” airs tonight, Dec. 4, at 9:00 p.m. Eastern Time.

http://radiotime.com/station/s_34471/KOIL_1180.aspx


218 posted on 12/04/2009 4:28:20 PM PST by rosettasister
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To: rosettasister

BUMP


219 posted on 12/04/2009 4:29:54 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

She did stick with her statement, or didn’t you read it? She said that it was a valid question, she never said she would ask it or that she thought he wasn’t born in the US. This is just more BS by the MSM trying to trash Sarah.


220 posted on 12/04/2009 4:32:41 PM PST by calex59
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