Polish Parliament officially condems the verdict of the ECoHR banning Crosses in classrooms.

Wirtualna Polska ^ | Dec.4, 2009 | (mj, zel)

[Matt_Rel]

[translation from Polish]

 

Polish Parliament officially condems the verdict of the ECoHR banning the presense of Crosses in classrooms.

The Polish Parliament, Seym, has stood up for the freedom of religion and for the endorsement of the values which belong to common heritage of the nations of Europe. The Seym of Poland rejects the verdict of the European Court of Human Rights banning Crosses in classrooms in Italy and calls the parliaments of the countries belonging to the Council of Europe to reflect on the issue.

The resolution of the 460-seat Polish Parliament was accepted by a huge majority of votes.

Out of 402 MPs present at the voting,  357 MPs voted for the resolution, 40 abstained from voting and 5 MPs were against.

The resolution emphasizes the fact that the Sign of Cross in not only a religious symbol and a testimony of God's love to humans. As far as public affairs are concerned, it also reminds us about the readiness for the ultimate sacrifice for other people and represents the values the respect for dignity of every human being are built upon. [...]

It's been reminded that in the past, especially under the rules of  Nazi and Communist regimes, the hostile acts against the religion were closely bound to massive violations of  human rights and led to discrimination.

The Seym has recalled the words of John Paul II, said in the Polish Parliament in June 1999, that "democracy without values easily turns into an open or hidden totalitarism".

The Polish Parliament has also expressed serious concern about decisions, which aim at the freedom of faith, disdain the rights and feelings of people believing in God and destroy the the social stability.  The verdict of the European Court of Human Rights banning the presence of Crosses in Italian classrooms belongs to the mentioned above decisions, says the Polish resolution. [...]


(mj, zel)
 

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Three major Polish political parties which together take 90% of seats in the Polish Parliament, the Civic Platform (fiscal conservatives), Law & Justice (social conservatives), and Polish People's Party (social conservative party of the Polish farmers) have openly expressed their strong indignation and concern about the verdict of the European Court of Human Rights.

Voices from the parliamentary debate on the resulution:

"If we are indifferent today, let us not be surprised tomorrow  that our successors will be indifferent when the Cross of Chrtist is taken down from the Church altars", Jacek Zalka (Civic Platform)

 

"If the Crosses in classrooms are an obstacle today, soon the  road-side Crosses will be an obstacle too", Tadeusz Slawecki (PPP)

[ road-side crosses - a ubiquitous element of the Polish landscape]

 

"The resolution of the Polish Seym is the voice that defends the European civilization.", Kazimierz Michał Ujazdowski (Law & Justice)

 

[stefanbatory]

mieszkalem za rok w Bydgoszcze...wiem

nasz prezydent jest ochdny, chcialbym ze bedziemy mial madry(a), mocny(a), odwazny(a) prezydent(a)bardzo wkrotce...

Hope I remembered my Polish well...

[dfwgator]

I always thought the best approach would have been for Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, etc. form their own bloc outside of EU, and made trade agreements between the bloc and the EU, but without becoming a full-fledged member of the EU. That way they could have pretty much reaped the same benefits, without the costs. Slavic Europe is a different culture than that of the rest of Europe, especially since the end of WWII.

[wastedyears]

Sabaton - 40:1 (Battle of Wizna)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epeQwq-aYV0

[wolf78]

LOL. Looks like it's really hard to understand why Poland joined the EU. Theoretically speaking, Poland gets more money from the EU than she pays to the common kitty. In fact, the criteria of getting money for perticular projects from the EU are so complicated that Poland is in the red.

The real argument for the EU is access to the common market. Within the common legal framework you have "complete no kidding free trade" and that's why e.g. Dell serves the German market with factories in Poland, 70% of all trade is with EU countries as well as the majority of all foreign investment in Poland. There are even common company statutes (SE = Societas Europaea, e.g. the former Porsche SE).

The Secret of World Peace

[lizol]

Tylko pod Krzyżem, tylko od tym znakiem,
Polska bedzie Polska, a Polak - Polakiem

Only under the Cross, only under this sign,
Poland, will be Poland, and a Pole will be a Pole.

[Matt_Rel]

LOL. Anyway, I understood pretty well.Thanks.

[Matt_Rel]

Sabaton - 40:1 (Battle of Wizna)

Mind the fact that those few heroes of Wizna who got to captivity never surrendered! They were collected by Germans from the battle field being severely wounded and barely alive.

This is a good example to follow even in our times when our Christian World is in jeopardy, terrorized by a Muhammadans and Atheists.

No retreat! No surrender! This is the lesson I have learned from the Heroes of Wizna.

see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoQj8GGHNxU

[MSF BU]

So the have to obey the law?

[MSF BU]

Why embracing free trade must also mandate atheism and sodomy is beyond me.

[guitarplayer1953]

It looks like they have 40 obamas in their midst. 40 out 400 and some mp’s abstained from voting.

[SunkenCiv]

The Polish Parliament, Seym, has stood up for the freedom of religion and for the endorsement of the values which belong to common heritage of the nations of Europe. The Seym of Poland rejects the verdict of the European Court of Human Rights banning Crosses in classrooms in Italy and calls the parliaments of the countries belonging to the Council of Europe to reflect on the issue... the 460-seat Polish Parliament... Out of 402 MPs present at the voting, 357 MPs voted for the resolution, 40 abstained from voting and 5 MPs were against.

[vimto]

You may well be right - I heard a figure of 650 on the radio and as we well know that isn't authoritative. But even if it is 600 it is still a lot more than others are willing to commit.