[Brytani]

Let me ask you a questions.

You are saying Orly isn’t filing briefs correctly; that her use of evidence gathered from online websites lessens her position.

Both The Justice Department and attorneys on Obama’s payroll have filed briefs, citing websites that claim to have in their possession Obama’s authentic birth certificate.

How does the use of a website by Orly diminish her cause while the use of a website by Obama’s defense team strengthen their case?

I also question why judges; who have dismissed eligibility cases from various lawyers, have referenced “fight the smears” or other websites as a reason for dismissal.

Btw...I’m not being a smart ass asking this question, I’ve wondered for a while why so many people object to Orly using websites in her briefs when Obama’s team does the exact same thing.

[seekthetruth]

Thanks Brytani! You asked the same question I have! I also wonder why Obama is paying so many attorneys to keep his records sealed when just showing his actual long form birth certificate would end all the court cases.

Even Sarah was asked about the BC issue as to weather she thought the questions were fair game. She replied that since media people had asked for proof that Trig was her baby by showing his birth certificate, that certainly Americans should be able to ask Obama to show his!

Thought that was a great point! So WHY won't Obama just end all the cases and answer the very simple question concerning his place of birth? What is he hiding???

[Sibre Fan]

Brytani asked "How does the use of a website by Orly diminish her cause while the use of a website by Obama’s defense team strengthen their case?

First, I'm not sure that's an accurate statement. I just re-read the DOJ's Motion to Dismiss and two replies in Barnett and can't find any mention of the COLB. I checked the docs in Kerchner and couldn't find mention of it there either.

However, I do seem to recall it being mentioned somewhere - but the difference is that, unlike Orly, neither Obama's attorneys nor the DOJ have ever submitted the COLB as evidence that he was born in the United States. If I recall correctly, a passing mention was made that he'd posted a copy of his COLB on his campaign website. That's it. In contrast, Orly submits copies of stuff downloaded from the internet and/or emailed to her -- as EVIDENCE -- without authenticating it at all. That's a huge, big difference.

I also question why judges; who have dismissed eligibility cases from various lawyers, have referenced “fight the smears” or other websites as a reason for dismissal.

That has not happened - in any state or federal court. Judges have mentioned it in passing too. They have never relied upon that information to support their holding. All the holdings have been based on whether the court has jurisdiction - and the facts surrounding Obama's birth have no impact on that question.

Btw...I’m not being a smart ass asking this question, I’ve wondered for a while why so many people object to Orly using websites in her briefs when Obama’s team does the exact same thing.

They're good questions, I think. The upshot is that it is NOT the "exact" same thing - at all. The situations are completely different: Asking a court to accept a website as EVIDENCE is not at all the same thing as mentioning something as background/context.