There are a lot of Jews right here on FR that are very conservative as is my entire family. Not all Jews are morons like the Liberal ones. There seems to be a lot of discussion about Liberal Jews and no mention of what has happened within the Catholic Church or other religions as well. Let’s not forget the recent Zero scandal at Notre Dame.
Check out rjchq.org so you can see there are conservative Jews fighting to educate the Liberal ones. We are all under assault from Hussein Obama and his minions. We better start pulling together.
Thank God! And yes, in every religion there are liberals. It just strikes most people as curious as to why many Jews continue to support liberals and anti-Israel policies.
“There seems to be a lot of discussion about Liberal Jews and no mention of what has happened within the Catholic Church or other religions as well. “
Were you asleep? Discussed frequently.
You’ve missed a lot. The USCCB has a long history of taking positions that read like manifestos issued by the DNC. Only the issues of abortion/sexual abuse/liturgical nuttiness have stymied a liberal take-over the American church like the take-over of the Episcopal Church. Until the Democratic party abandoned anti-communism, even fairly conservative bishops were pretty close to being New Dealers. We are just now getting to the point where younger bishops have grown up with a Democratic Party that is vehemently hostile to traditional Church teachings have realized that the party has little place for Catholics who are faithful to Rome. The dustup between Ted Kennedy’s son and Bishop Tobin is a sign that the liberal clique that has dominated the Church since Vatican II is losing control.
My dear friend, we are here. We are speaking out. We are fighting back. We will give it all that we have.
Harry Reid is supposedly a very active and observant Mormon.
Geeze! Go figure! There are ( what was that expression?)... “mushugana” in **all** religions.
Not even close, Catholics went 54% for Obama while Jews were at 78% and in some years Catholics actually go for the Republican, Jews never do.
Jewish vote:
In 2004 Kerry 76%
In 2000 Gore 79%
In 1996 Clinton 78%
In 1992 Clinton 80%
I grew up in Philadelphia and earned a doctorate in one of the most competitive health professions. The school was overwhelmingly Jewish. I can honestly say that nearly all of my friends were Jewish. While I lived and worked in the Philadelphia area almost all of my close professional associations were with Jews. This is my conclusion ( as a gentile) regarding liberal Jews:
—The parents of my graduate school classmates suffered cruel and bitterly disappointing discrimination in business, professional organizations, fraternities, country clubs ( where business deals are often made), and admission to competitive colleges and professional schools. This was **still** a very recent experience for them and their parents **still** were dealing with the consequences of this discrimination. They correctly identified the discriminators are being Christians.
—There were hundreds of ways in which Christianity was shoved up their noses and it started the moment they entered kindergarten. Jewish holidays were **never** acknowledged. There were the Christmas decoration, carols, and Christian religious music sung in the class and chorus, and ( of course) the yearly Easter Bunny. The literature chosen for study reflected Christian themes, and many of the Jewish students had attended government schools where the King James Bible was read daily and the Lord's Prayer recited.
— While I was growing up, Philadelphia still had “blue laws” that required the mandatory closing of all businesses on Sunday, the **Christian** Sabbath. Wow! How's that for a weekly reminder of who is running the show in town.
— Constant reminders of Christian domination continued even in professional school in the mid-1970s. The school was empty during the Jewish holidays but the schedule marched on without them. A few kind gentile professors would repeat the lectures for the Jewish students but most would not. ( And...Remember, in the 1970s most of the professors were gentile since this generation of professors reflected previous discrimination against Jews.) The professional school being under the direction of the Christian dominated state legislature was closed for the major Christian holidays, though.
—Then while many active Christians support Israel they do it for what is perceived by my Jewish friends for a very weird reason: The Second Coming! Naturally, my Jewish friends wonder about Christian commitment to them as real people. They have good reason to believe that the Christian's real commitment to Israel is as a tarmac for Jesus’s landing.
—The Holocaust was **still** a very personal event for my classmates. Nearly every one of my Jewish classmates could name very close relatives exterminated in countries that were supposedly officially Christian. Christians killing ( or neglecting to defend Jews) wasn't seen as a “family value”.
So...That is why many of my friends were very hesitant to trust Christians or Christianity. Seriously,...Can you blame them?
I am a committed Christian and our entire family ( my children are now adults with families of their own) are very active in our denomination.
I forgot the conclusion:
So...Conservatives tend to be Christian and my Jewish friends and associates are very wary of Christians ( for good reasons, in my opinion.) It for this reason they tend to gravitate to those who are secular. Secular people are more likely to be liberals.
The number of conservative Jews is trivial compared to the total.
We are blessed with many of them on this forum but the tendency is to defend their Jewishness against any hint of criticism even when terribly wrong.
But the conservative ones don’t usually go into politics. A Jewish politician is more likely to be dyed in the wool liberal than otherwise.