Beam Me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 12/02/2009 6:02:03 PM PST by ricks_place
One of the defenses offered by the media and those caught in Climategate has been that no matter how obvious the e-mails seem, there is a complicated context that means only academics can fully grasp what the e-mails meant. For example, CNN quibbled that, "there's very little context" in the leaked e-mails. We checked into what academics outside the cabal of global-warming advocates have been saying, and their view of the cover-up ranges anywhere from it being "disappointing" to "highly disturbing." Some professional researchers are shocked, while others are not.
About the mildest comment we could find is by Robin Hansen, professor at George Mason's economics department. On his blog, Mr. Hansen wrote that while he wasn't particularly surprised by the e-mails discovered in Climategate, "It is a shame that academia works this way." Physicist David Wright, who has held positions at top universities such as Harvard and is now a senior staff scientist at the Union of Concerned Scientists, is more outraged, commenting on a blog: "In my discipline, there were plenty of camps that had strong opinions about whether certain ideas were right or wrong, likely to move the field forward or likely to prove useless distractions. Sometimes discussions became quite heated. But never did I see groups of people plotting to hijack the peer review process in order to shut out those who disagreed with them, or discussing how to hide data that did not look good for their side of the debate."
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
This is very good...there are too many news media outlets and blogs that are dispersing the truth for the left to lie and distort their way out of this. They can continue with their propaganda, but it is putting them in further peril politically with the people.
Yet another scientist who doesn't understand the context in which hiding and then destroying data serves the mission of discovering the truth. Perhaps Wright needs some "re-education", if he wants to keep his funding and his job.
Yes you’re right.
These scientists stopped seeking the truth and started serving a political master.
They started serving the Globalist agenda of the UN. The truth was sacrificed to the higher purpose of bringing the industrial world to heel to serve the New World Order.
The Global Warming hoax was developed to push an agenda of imposing a global tax on energy that would be administered by the UN which would provide the UN the leverage to bring the entire world under UN control.
The many media reports are encouraging but its not over. The totalitarian left is cunning. Most conservatives have real jobs. lol
A very bitter former Senator and Vice President Al Gore seen here en-route back to prison after a federal appeals court refused to review his 20 year sentence for his lead role as spokesperson in the “Climategate” fraud conspiracy. The same court recently rejected the appeals of the lengthy sentences of the 137 alleged UN “scientists” – Gore’s co-conspirators – for falsifying data supporting so-called Cap and Trade legislation that trial testimony disclosed would have virtually destroyed what remained of the U.S. economy while unjustly enriching Gore and a cabal of insiders.
And thus, the scientists are complicit in the hoax. They failed, or refused, to question data that was obviously false.......
Tax dollars that were distributed for the global warming hoax should be immediately recalled to the treasury. And the clown Gore should be made penniless since his wealth was made here....... Of course, I will not hold my breath until this happens.....
Right. Normally they do this without talking about it...
The lady doeth protest too much...
Tenure hides a lot of frauds and societal criminals.
Right. Normally they do this without talking about it...
The lady doeth protest too much...
This guy is with the Union of Concerned Scientists, certainly a leftist group. I think we have an honest lefty here, he is convinced of his cause but would not commit fraud to promote it. Let's not be so hard on him but quote him widely and encourage others such as he to sound off.
“Right. Normally they do this without talking about it... “
I couldn’t disagree more. In my 32 years of experience doing research at Mobil (and later ExxonMobil) I never saw scientists or engineers behaving in a manner remotely approaching what seems to be routine at the “CRU.” Hiding or making up data would be a sure way to get your ass fired - very fast.
The person in the article, on the other hand, was talking about academic establishments, government research institutes, peer review and scientific journals and editors approving or rejecting science papers. And you can't even pretend to tell me that doesn't follow all the campiness of medieval theologians in field after field, complete with anathemas and patronage trails behind every "principle investigator". Because I know better, personally.
If an article cites the reviewer, he approves it. If the article has errors he will chide to correct them if he is diligent and notices. If an article cite the reviewer's chief debating opponent in the field, some will be fair and many will not be. If it doesn't cite, it is worthless, it misses the point, it fails to acknowledge the seminal contributions of glorious X et al (not signed, X). It is a standing joke how awful it is. The solution is vertically integrated research silos that approve papers in their own school - exactly like medieval theology.
Then it is left to the young researcher to wade through the spurious published to not perish crap for the actually important gold - usually guided by a non-too-objective direction given by some interested advisor. If the advisor is smart, he helps that navigation precisely by dispensing with the pious blather and telling it like it is; if he is a self righteous spinner himself, heaven help the young researcher, because the system sure as hell won't.
Thanks for the correction Jason. I was reaching through the screen to effing strangle you.
Pay heed to pelican001 who has worked among REAL scientists, not these political charlatans promoted by the Goracle.
These CRU clowns are bloody evil. They don’t seek knowledge but rather power and control.
It is useful for us to be able to distinguish between folks who are trying to hose us and the folks who are trying to do a good job even though they may politically wish for a different result. To tar all with the malfeasance of the CRU is just as lazy and evil as the data fudging we are seeing.
Jason I appreciate that but then I don't. You were trashing this guy and I said he was one that might be of good heart. You come back and tell me I am wrong because others are not, a situation that I am well aware of and have promulgated myself. Can't you just accept the point if it is true?
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