[JasonC]

That's fine, but no, not all scientists are pure seekers after truth - nor are all politicians disinterested servants of the public good - nor are all preachers righteous and honest - nor are all soldiers heros - nor are all businessmen enterprising. Job descriptions are not character; we deal with men, not cartoons. And these men are perfectly indicative of the state of far too many modern "scientists". Modern politics manufactures rogues - it is its designed function and it achieves that purpose.

[jimfree]

That's fine, but no, not all scientists are pure seekers after truth - nor are all politicians disinterested servants of the public good - nor are all preachers righteous and honest - nor are all soldiers heros - nor are all businessmen enterprising. Job descriptions are not character; we deal with men, not cartoons. And these men are perfectly indicative of the state of far too many modern "scientists". Modern politics manufactures rogues - it is its designed function and it achieves that purpose.

Jason I appreciate that but then I don't. You were trashing this guy and I said he was one that might be of good heart. You come back and tell me I am wrong because others are not, a situation that I am well aware of and have promulgated myself. Can't you just accept the point if it is true?