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A Word to the Huck Haters
Parcbench ^ | December 1, 2009 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 12/02/2009 1:51:55 AM PST by Silly

Cop-Killer???

A little bit of light needs to be shed on a funny little thing called FACTS as it pertains to the issues surrounding the suspected cop-killer Maurice Clemmons. Shamefully prominent voices in the Conservative punditocracy (mostly ones who supported Romney in the last go-round) have come out attempting to link Gov. Mike Huckabee to the killings in Seattle that took the lives of four police officers.

Most of these spared little thought for the families, and jumped right into the band-wagon in denouncing Huck as soft on crime, and a friend to criminals, or a bleeding heart Christian. (Funny how the mainstream always accuses Christians of not having a heart.)

All that being said, these Conservative pundits are wrong on the material substance in linking the two and if they continue to do so it says more about their own character than that of the former Governor.

Yes Gov. Huckabee commuted a 100+ year sentence for a person who was a minor when he committed a series of burglaries. He commuted it all the way down to 40 years.

But let’s get some facts straight:

1. That commutation did not pardon, declare innocent or acquit Clemmons of his wrong doing.

2. Clemmons remained on parole following his commutation and when he violated that parole he was brought in for those crimes. (At this point in time, Huckabee’s involvement with Clemmons was over.)

3. It was prosecutorial malfeasance that THEN allowed Clemmons to walk free, NOT a Huckabee commutation.

4. Sometime after that incident Clemmons moves to Washington State, and by all signs possible, lives the life of a model citizen.

5. After that 5-6 year stretch of time Clemmons begins to have skirmishes with Washington State authorities.

6. In Washington State there is a 3 strike law. Which means that when accumulating serious offenses in that state, the third time will incur automatic sentencing that can not be altered.

7. The child-rape Clemmons was most recently charged with was considered his 3rd strike IN WASHINGTON.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clemmons; friedsquirrel; huckaboob; huckster; ihatehuckabee; ihatehuckbandwagon; nannystate
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To: freeangel
Once an animal—always an animal. The thought of letting this animal out should never have occurred to anyone.

Even Bill Clinton denied Clemmons' pardon.

21 posted on 12/02/2009 2:36:40 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("The Community Organizer better stop bitching that the community is organizing." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Silly
As a governor Huckabee was above his pay grade.
22 posted on 12/02/2009 2:38:29 AM PST by TYVets (Let's Roll!!! The leadership of the GOP has no spine and no guts, but we conservatives do)
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To: Silly

Kevin McCullough has a lot of nerve to write this article FWIW. Blaming the deaths of 4 cops on Mitt Romney or his supporters is the the epitome of stupid too. Neither he nor they had anything to do with the commutation of that monsters sentence. I ain’t a big Romney supporter. I think he’s a weasel too. I’ll take this article with a large grain of salt, and come to the conclusion Kevin McCullough is a Huck-a-phony supporter.


23 posted on 12/02/2009 2:41:21 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("The Community Organizer better stop bitching that the community is organizing." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: TalBlack

This op-ed is a complete whitewash. Much like the Factor interview the other night. What I think is laughable is the author goes through the motions to blame all this on Mitt Romney and his core of supporters. I ain’t one and I still think it’s stupid.


24 posted on 12/02/2009 2:45:53 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("The Community Organizer better stop bitching that the community is organizing." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Silly
I don't understand your apparent theory that because Clemmons committed his subsequent crimes in Washington State, that it should take Huckabee off the hook.

After Willie Horton was pardoned by Mike Dukakis in Massachusetts, Horton went on to commit his subsequent crimes in Maryland. But the bottom line is that it was Mike Dukakis who set him free. In fact, I think it is even more egregious that Clemmons went to a different state to commit his crimes. The people of Washington State did not deserve to suffer for the poor decision of Gov. Huckabee any more than the Maryland citizens should not have had to suffer for the poor decision of Gov. Dukakis up in Massachusettes.

25 posted on 12/02/2009 2:46:51 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 26 days away from outliving Lefty Frizzell)
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To: SamAdams76

That’s the point, isn’t it? This case, like Willy Horton with Dukakis, simply reinforces a weakness he was already perceived to have—otherwise it wouldn’t have such power and resonance. Further, Huck’s sanctimony on this issue only feeds into a larger perception of his moral preening getting in the way of making ‘commonsense conservative’ choices when presented with hard facts.


26 posted on 12/02/2009 2:46:59 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Silly
4. Sometime after that incident Clemmons moves to Washington State, and by all signs possible, lives the life of a model citizen.

Only desperation to spin Huckabee's culpability would lead one to write the above.

27 posted on 12/02/2009 2:51:43 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: SamAdams76

The bigger problem for Huck is, he had an opportunity to come clean and he essentially blew it by blaming everyone else involved.


28 posted on 12/02/2009 2:53:12 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("The Community Organizer better stop bitching that the community is organizing." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Silly
Huck's commutation made is possible for this animal to come up for parole as early as he did.

His original sentence made him ineligible for parole for a VERY long time.

Huck started the ball rolling.

Sorry, you can't put a shine on that sneaker.

29 posted on 12/02/2009 2:55:37 AM PST by CapnJack
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To: Silly

I have never particularly liked Huckabee, but the way some people (Romney supporters, in their majority, I understand) are turning every thread on this into a hate-Huckabee festival is ridiculous.

He was but one of many factors and has not had any involvement with this for almost a decade. In the meanwhile, we’re completely ignoring the WA judge who let this guy out on bail just a couple of months ago, and ignoring the whole lousy parole system in two states that for years never supervised him or did its job (which would have been to return him to jail for the rest of his sentence).

In fact, I read that one of the conditions of his second parole in AR was that he leave the state and go to WA, where he had family. So everybody was essentially passing him around and now they all want to scream that it wasn’t their fault and point their fingers at an unpopular political figure, which they are being assisted in doing by the sufferers of Huckabee Derangement Syndrome on this board.


30 posted on 12/02/2009 2:58:06 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

Blaming Romney supporters isn’t helping either. That’s like saying Mitt Romney and his core of supporters are responsible for that monster’s reign of terror. Clemmons’ life of crime didn’t just start 6 weeks ago.


31 posted on 12/02/2009 3:15:14 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("The Community Organizer better stop bitching that the community is organizing." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Silly

Any way you want to slice it, Huck’s toast.


32 posted on 12/02/2009 3:18:49 AM PST by RU88 (Bow to no man)
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To: Silly
The 2008 primary just goes on and on and on. I predict the next one will be even nastier. Meanwhile: our spiritual, demographic, economic, security and cultural declines accelerate as they get steeper and steeper. I'm not defending Huckabee or downplaying the vicious murder of these police officers but 15 minutes of abortions in this country, protected, promoted and soon to paid for by nationally enshrined rights and entitlements are vastly greater travesties than this one. These kinds of unnatural violences have common causes and consequences that are in no way isolated to the sins of Huckabee.

Like Clemmons, this nation is under a commutation. However, unlike Huckabee, God is in complete control and he will deliver complete and irrevocable justice at the instant that he decides that our iniquity is full.

Luke 13
1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
6 He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it:
9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

"The bow of God's wrath is bent, and the arrow made ready on the string, and Justice bends the arrow at your heart, and strains the bow, and it is nothing but the mere pleasure of God, and that of an angry God, without any promise or obligation at all, that keeps the arrow one moment from being made drunk with your blood." - Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God

33 posted on 12/02/2009 3:23:34 AM PST by Theophilus (Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?)
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To: Silly
"Those funny things called FACTS are actually quite important."

Except they're not funny.

The man's finished, fini.
And that's not a PC leftist inspired "hate" position, either.
Just a fact. ;^)

34 posted on 12/02/2009 3:26:14 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: Silly

I don’t know why I ended up on this ping list. I didn’t like Huckster, The Snake Oil Salesman, before this latest incident. Recent events have not altered my opinion of the “other” man from Hope, Arkansas one bit.


35 posted on 12/02/2009 3:31:28 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: Silly
"1. That commutation did not pardon, declare innocent or acquit Clemmons of his wrong doing."

Yeah, SOMEONE ELSE would have came along and let him out EVEN IF the Huckster would have left this poor misunderstood cheerleader in there to serve out his life sentence!

Romney the RINO has nothing to do with it. You folks who are defending and excusing the Huckster for making it possible for this POS murderer to be released are just as pathetic as Huckabee.

36 posted on 12/02/2009 3:32:40 AM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Silly

There is an excellent article in the American Spectator concerning Huckabee and his pardoning over 1,000 hardened criminals during his tenure as Governor. Call me a Huck hater all you want but the FACT remains he is unfit for higher office. I will continue to email friends and family about Huckabee to make sure they know that his moral compass is severely broken. And I will encourage those same friends and family to forward the information to their friends.


37 posted on 12/02/2009 3:37:16 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: blues_guitarist; Silly; bmwcyle
You still need to be an elected public official to be a RINO.

Too many of you guys confound RINO with "country club Republican".

A RINO is usually a Democrat or (so-called) Independent in a heavily Democrat voting state or electoral district where the average Republican or Conservative wouldn't have a realistic chance of winning.

The trick is to find a disaffected Democrat willing to run as a Republican against an entrenched, and usually corrupt, Democrat machine incumbent.

Then, when the RINO wins he or she is expected to caucus with the Republicans in the legislature for the purpose of controlling the legislative agenda. They may well end up voting against bills sponsored by the Republicans, but those bills would usually have not gotten out of committee without the RINO vote to control the legislative body.

Sometimes one of them will advance to Govenor, Lt Governor or Attorney General/Secretary of State.

Once out of office they are no longer RINOs ~ just former whatevers.

Countryclubbers, on the other hand, take part in party management.

38 posted on 12/02/2009 3:39:25 AM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: 7thson
The Huck was governor for quite a long time ~ longer than his two previous corrupt predecessors.

Joe Conason, a Republican hater from way back ~ a man whose Democrat slime is so pernicious you should not allow him to stand on the sidewalk in front of your home ~ says The Huck pardoned more folks in the last 40 years than any other Governor in that period.

Which is true, but that's mostly because of the length of his term.

It's a regular practice in Arkansas to sell pardons ~ a practice of which The Huck is singularly not accused.

39 posted on 12/02/2009 3:42:23 AM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: Silly

Criticism is now hatred? How very progressive. I don’t hate Huck, he is a nice enough fellow, but he made a fatal error with all these commutations and pardons.

A nice guy who wants to be liked by all is dangerous.


40 posted on 12/02/2009 3:42:50 AM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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