Posted on 12/01/2009 5:16:43 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Other than that, he is a military genius.
That is all.
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U.S. President Barack Obama arrives onstage to deliver an address at the U.S. Military Academy in West Point, New York, December 1, 2009. Obama said on Tuesday he is sending 30,000 more U.S. troops to Afghanistan by next summer to speed the battle against the Taliban and plans to start bringing some home in 18 months.
Keep it up, dork.
“Keep it up, dork.”
Hey, if learning to read Arabic makes me dorky, so be it. Somebody has to learn these things.
So far as substantive comment, anyone else concerned that the clear timeline will give the Taliban an incentive to “lay low” and blend into the rural population and just wait out the “Surge”? Or are folks more expecting the Taliban will try to “Black Hawk Down” us and bloody our nose until we lose political will and cancel the “Surge”?
You don't have to be an academic to see that. I in fact many "academics" don't. You just need common sense.
I worked as a paramedic in an urban area so some of the conditions you describe I have see. But I have also seen many who scam the system.
By the way my dad is a retired deputy sheriff.
I’m drinking and I’m not even watching Zero. (UNC vs. Mich ST)
My goodness. There are two and they must be of mixed mind about the war. What are we going to do when Obama’s teleprompters start playing politics with one another and the war??? One side for socialized medicine; the other one against... Next thing you know, our President will be punching himself!
Quit being you disingenuous.
I didn't refer to you as a dork because of any ability you might have to read a foreign language. I used that term because you found the FR thread not intellectually stimulating enough for you as opposed to some other forums on the 'net.
Then, you proceed to cast us all as low brows that do not "take a real interest in what’s going on."
You are far too full of yourself for my taste.
You should ask that question of Bill, Hillary or Obama. But not to worry. It's not their noses that ever get bloodied. If you don't like what is being said here you can vote with your feet. I'm sure NPR welcomes you. All fifteen of them.
Quit being you disingenuous.
I’m not making any excuses for I too have seen welfare checks issued to people who are current “guests of the county.”
The point I was trying to make was that the Dems (RINO’s too) are using government hand-outs to keep people indebted to big government. It’s the old addage, give a person a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a person to fish and he will eat for a lifetime. The Dems policy is to give everyone the fish. BUT, again, someone has to pay for the fish and the Democrat answer is to tax the “rich.”
Well the rich are awfully stupid since they support Democrat candidates and then still get taxed. At what point do they realize the hand in their pocket isn’t theirs?
And in reference to the speech, how can any serious person accept the notion that we are telling the enemy that we are going to ramp-up the troops and then 18 months later we are pulling them out. Why send them then?
That’s what others report as well. I know those Cadets were SO GLAD when this speech wss over.
Well, I do hate that guy. He’s a real jerk.
What I heard out of it was more about freedom and the accomplishments of America in the name of freedom than I ever thought I would hear out of his mouth... Kinda like he’s trying to be JFK or something. For once, his speech wasn’t all about him. Toward the end of it I was thinking he sounded a little like Bush, but just a tad.
As far as strategy, he didn’t come right out with it. It was sort of a read between the lines kind of thing. Some say the time table thing stinks, which I agree with, but he prefaced it with ‘we hope to’ have the build up last only 18 mos, and something about the generals working it out, so I don’t really take it as a definite thing, like maybe that is something he’s saying for political cover, but it could be just wishful thinking on my part.
Really, all I can do is take him at his word since he is the only commander-in-chief we have at the moment. If he only wants the build up to be there for 18 mos, rational thought informs that he’ll have to pull out all the stops and really slam that place hard. But he didn’t say what he was going to do with the troops.
He said something that I could read as he wants to send the Afghans into do the real heavy fighting. Are they ready for that? Will it work? I don’t know.
I just thank God that Patraeus is there.
“And in reference to the speech, how can any serious person accept the notion that we are telling the enemy that we are going to ramp-up the troops and then 18 months later we are pulling them out. Why send them then?”
Presumably they hope to buy enough momentum in 18 months that we can shift the balance of power and put the Taliban on a downhill slide.
However, if we just “squeeze the balloon” and shove the Taliban out of District X into District Y, and then push them from District Y to District A, we’ll just be running around in circles while the enemy waits us out.
Didn’t Sun Tzu say something like “When your enemy is strong, retreat. When your enemy tires, harass. When your enemy is exhausted, attack”? We’ve basically labeled our exhaustion point. The question is whether the Taliban can afford to do little-to-nothing for 18 months without becoming irrelevant.
He can always stay somwhere else. He needn't let the door hit him in the ass. I don't speak arabic or spanish. I never felt the need to learn.
He is not my CIC. God is. We need to remember we are all Generals on the battlefield for freedom.... I’m claiming the Revoluntionary War motto “No king but King Jesus!” If I didn’t know God was still on His Throne in Heaven, I don’t know how I would be able to handle it all...
"I say Pockeestan, you say Pakistan, let's call the whole thing off!"
Yes why does he commit troops and then in the next breath say we are pulling out. What a numskull.
And you wonder why people on this thread are bitching.....f'n koolaid drinker.
Jim's right, Zero & Co. are gonna send more meat into the grinder with funding cut and hands tied.....if you had any sense, you'd already know those cadets already are privy to this information the day of....
Your response was so direct and to the point. ;)
I agree with that. Obama is going to get better people than he is killed for no reason much like Lyndon Johnson an MacNamera did. And their lily white asses are never in danger.
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