Is Palin’s lead a pitfall for the pro-life cause? - ALAN KEYES

Loyal to Liberty ^ | November 27, 2009 | Alan Keyes

[EternalVigilance]

 
I was not at all surprised to hear that Rudy Giuliani has lately expressed views that welcome the rising prominence of Sarah Palin in the GOP. Giuliani is the archetype of the politicians who wear the Republican label but staunchly support the pro-abortion agenda. Of course, he imitates the pro-abortion Democrats by using the "pro-choice" label to dress his position in deceptively American garb. The use of that term is one of the most clever rhetorical ploys in the history of American politics. If the slaveholders had thought of it, people like me might still be doing stoop labor for no wages. After all, what could be more American than choice? Isn't that what freedom is all about?

Actually, no; not in the sense of the political liberty the American people have up to now enjoyed. Our liberty is based on the idea of unalienable rights articulated to justify our nation's assertion of independence from Great Britain. "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

[dschapin]

Ultimately Abortion should be prohibited through a right to life Amendment. However, that is not going to happen overnight. It is completely unproductive and stupid to attack as “pro choice” a politician who wants to see Roe v. Wade overturned so that we can start outlawing abortion across the states. Alan Keyes - who I have contributed to in the past - would be far better spent attacking those who do not agree with him 95% on the life issue. Shooting all of ones allies will not win any wars.

[frogjerk]

I am talking about the rights that are derived from God that are spoken about in the Declaration and what we are, as a nation, founded upon. I don't want to be a hypocrite and state that I believe in these undeniable truths yet vote and represent something that is not in concordance with them. I will be held accountable at a later time for this.

I understand the difference between what is politically possible and what is true but I am unwilling to compromise my moral high horse. Lincoln and the abolitionists rode this damn moral high horse towards the banishment of slavery and we fought the bloodiest war to free men from other men.

Can we move in the right direction by politics, absolutely, but I don't want to paint ourselves into a corner by stating that the states have some sort of self granted right to allow the wholesale killing of the innocent.

[Batrachian]

"To back peddle the abomination of Roe to the "states right's" issue is granting a legitimacy to killing the innocent that never existed prior to 1973."

Abortion was legal in many states prior to 1973. Do you deny this or do you say that it's a meaningless fact? I bring it up because that's the situation that we'll revert to when Roe is overturned. Do you deny that? Put your feelings aside for a minute and just look at the legal situation.

[whatisthetruth]

So you agree that states should have the right to kill the unborn? Are you pro-life?

[frogjerk]

If you only want to damn those who disagree with you to Hell, well I guess you have met your objective,

What are you talking about? You are making some wild assumptions and generalizations about me. Please speak to the facts and words in my posts.

Well, you folks really suck at that!

Yeah, we really suck at that in NJ where we just elected Christie who is not the greatest pro-life politician, but a step in the right direction.

[Batrachian]

"Working from what the Supreme Court ruled in Roe, pro-life lawmakers can pass a Life at Conception Act and end abortion by using the Constitution instead of amending it."

OK, so why hasn't this been done? Republicans had strong majorities fairly recently. If not then then when? In my political judgement, The SC is the key, not Congress.

[Kansas58]

EXACTLY my point!

Sarah Palin would be a HUGE “Step in the right direction” but the purists and the kooks like Alan Keyes take shots at our greatest hope?

[whatisthetruth]

Ah yes, thanks, I would have never thought of that as being a possible reason for some of the Keyes antipathy on this thread but now that you mention it, afterall he is black .........

[whatisthetruth]

Thanks but calling me a 3rd party idiot and holier than thou because I happen to believe in Keyes' principles on abortion is not something I think I can learn from. With that said I am not a Republican or beholden to the Gop Party line on abortion (aka Michael Steele), I am an independent conservative.

Kansas58 sounds more like she/he has 'personal' issues with Keyes.

[frogjerk]

Sarah Palin would be a HUGE “Step in the right direction” but the purists and the kooks like Alan Keyes take shots at our greatest hope?

I would vote for Palin in a heartbeat and I hope she runs. I never said I agreed with Keyes bashing Palin in this article.

[RichInOC]

I’m not sure I understand the ambassador’s question. If having a dedicated, principled pro-life political candidate who can win both primary and general elections, even with her party machinery against her, even in down years for the party at large, is a pitfall, it’s one we need more of.

The ambassador and the governor are two people I’d personally rather be friends. I think they’re broadly sympathetic already. The ambassador can give the governor a master class in political philosophy. The governor can give the ambassador advice on how to win elections. Both things matter.

[hellbender]

The Constitution is the supreme law of the land. Fabrications by unelected lawyers who ignore the Constitution and do violence to its explicit wording with their idiotic doctrines of "precedent" are not "law." This country was founded on a written Constitution, not a bunch of haphazard precedents like that of Great Britain. The Founders did not want to rerun the many disasters of the mother country. They wanted an explicit document controlling govt. They would have been appalled to hear that the Constitution guaranteed a right to murder children. We need to crush and exterminate this doctrine that lawyers can fabricate law to suit sinful collectivist fantasies, without the slightest regards for the Constitution, the sovereign will of the people, or natural law.

[Kansas58]

my apologies then, consider most of what I post to be directed at the “group” rather than to you, individually.

[Scythian]

The danger for Palin is fatigue, getting sick of hearing her name, and her peaking way to early ... She couched her words on the Orly interview, for instance, when asked if she thought Obama was a socialist, her answer should have been one word, “Yes”. Reagan called evil evil. I’m totally pro-Sarah but she’s starting to sound like a politician and that turns me off, if ever somebody comes along and calls it like it is that person will be the one that forms the true rallying cry, it could be Sarah, but she’s couching her words, let her speak the truth and let the chips fall where they may ...

[Just A Nobody]

OK, so why hasn't this been done? Republicans had strong majorities fairly recently. If not then then when?

It would appear that the bills, which have been introduced in the House and SINate for MANY years now, are read and referred to committee where they die -- much like our babies -- a slow and painful death.

IIRC, in 2007 or 8, the House bill had over 100 sponsors and co-sponsors. I can't find anything in regard to debate of voting on any of the bills.

How is the SC the key and not CONgre$$?

[whatisthetruth]

Shooting all of ones allies will not win any wars.

Keyes sees problems with Palin saying murder of the unborn is a state's right. Why should he not speak out about this when Palin is out there claiming to be pro-life?

Nowadays anybody can 'claim' to be whatever, if anything making Palin answer her pro-life critics can only help make the pro-life argument imo. Freepers continuing to try to disparage any and everyone from criticizing Palin's positions as mere Palin bashing does no one any good.

[dirtboy]

One thing I don't understand is that the men in black, by judicial fiat, can create an abortion on demand law of the land, but to reverse it, we need to go thru all of these 3/4rs this and 2/3rds that hoops, to get us back to where we were.

To revert to pre-Roe, it would just take a 5-4 SCOTUS vote, which could already be in place, just awaiting a relevent case to come before it.

And in NY are you talking about the law passed in 1970?

Yes.

[whatisthetruth]

Abortion was legal in many states prior to 1973.

Not true, maybe 3 or 4 at best.

[proud American in Canada]

Barack Obama is the luckiest politician in recent American history. His only two opponents in his short political career have been Alan Keyes and John McCain.

LOL!

[reasonisfaith]

“HORRIBLE political instincts”

That’s right. To Keyes I say this: if you think you have a good idea, please supplement the idea with a bit of creativity. Current conditions warrant novel strategy.

Her actions clearly demonstrate Sarah is pro life where it counts—in her heart. Keyes, you’re a smart guy, please put your talents to good use. Communicate your advice directly to Sarah.