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It took Obama three long months to come up with McChrystal-lite. If he were doing his job he would have known enough in August to decide within weeks after having the recommendation vetted.

The Telegraph is reporting similar numbers.

1 posted on 11/23/2009 8:13:55 PM PST by kristinn
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Beginning in March!!!????? Another 4 months away?????


81 posted on 11/23/2009 10:22:58 PM PST by Bubbette
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<< ... the (once) white House is incensed by leaks .... that didn’t originate in the (once) white House ... >>

Working evil secretly. Or the pretense of what presently passes as a “presidency” by insidiousness.


85 posted on 11/23/2009 10:41:24 PM PST by Brian Allen (Buraq Hussayn bin Buraq Hussayn bin Hussayn Ubambi, is to America what Pol Pot was to Cambodia)
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... amid opposition by some Democrats who are worried about the strain on the U.S. Treasury ...

These are the same morons who had no problem being in favor of an $787B porkulus bill that they knew couldn't work, a $1.2T and counting health care "reform" that they know will not work, 0bama's budgets that are going to bankrupt the country to the tune of >$1T per year, and a cap-and-tax program that will crush our economy and income tax base.

These troops are largely already being paid. What they will expend in ammunition, and plenty of it I hope, and other costs of being on a war footing may amount to a total of $5B for the duration. We will blow that on bribing 2-3 senators on the health care fiasco before we're done.

Hypocritical b@st@rds!!

86 posted on 11/23/2009 10:44:16 PM PST by SFConservative
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That’s a better number than I thought he would come through with. Perhaps as troops are able to leave Iraq, they will be transferred to Afghanistan.

Wondering what Geneal McCrystal is thinking right now.


87 posted on 11/23/2009 10:45:09 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Commander in Chief?



88 posted on 11/23/2009 10:49:54 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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He will “send” 34,000 troops...or he will not “bring home” 34,000 troops that otherwise would have been brought home?

Just like the supposed sameness of “creating” a million jobs or “not losing” a million.

It’s all smoke, mirrors, and semantics with this guy.


90 posted on 11/23/2009 11:09:34 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (If we will not be governed by God, we must be governed by tyrants. -- William Penn)
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I have yet to read the replies on this thread, but I find it very easy to believe this decision was timed to be announced after his first victory with healthcare this weekend.


91 posted on 11/23/2009 11:11:24 PM PST by edh (I need a better tagline)
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I don't think Obama realizes, who is more important?

Or...

We owe them our fullest support. They are not just photo ops!

95 posted on 11/24/2009 12:15:27 AM PST by MajorThomas (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.)
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Gordon Brown bit the bullet last month to send 500 more British troops. Brown has left wingers and Muslims who don’t like the idea to deal with.

At the time, the BBC reported that Obama had already decided to send more troops. The White House denied the report, but it all made sense to me.

Gordon Brown would not have gone out on a limb to have sent more British soldiers without knowing Obama planned the same. His people leaked that info to the BBC because it would help him politically for Britons to know Obama was doing the same thing.

But Obama has been keeping his announcement back for the right political timing.

Obama needed to keep his left wing happy through the election in November and through the recent health care votes.

With his popularity down, now is the time to look tough, talk tough and send troops.

The announcement of his decision delayed and timed for maxiumum political benefit.

The Republican claim he was dithering in making a decision was inaccurate. The real deal here is that Obama uses the decision making and public announcement process for his own political benefit.

He already decdided to send more troops and Gordon Brown knew it.

Its just that Obama has to play politics with announcing his decision.


98 posted on 11/24/2009 12:42:42 AM PST by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan)
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Unless they change the ROE all they are doing is adding 34,000 new targets.


99 posted on 11/24/2009 12:57:01 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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If he were doing his job he would have known enough in August to decide within weeks after having the recommendation vetted.

Don't be so quick to criticize.

It takes a lot of time to weigh the relative values of losing anti-war supporters vs not losing other blocks; and taking enough polls to see just exactly what level, if any, of troop increase will result in the fewest lost donations, votes, and photo-ops.

100 posted on 11/24/2009 12:57:44 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Build more nuke plants now: Proven technology, proven safety, proven Lib-maddening power!)
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This is comical. zero only worries about strains on the budget when it comes to national security, unless of course the cost in question is associated with a trial aimed at exposing the U.S. to more attacks and trouble within our own shores. Then the sky is the limit, even though it would have cost about 1/100th as much to try KSM and his buddies in military tribunals.

When it comes to something he believes in, zero will spend us into oblivion, but let the subject matter be something that protects or advances the U.S., then he wants to pinch pennies if he even begrudgingly agrees to do it in the first place.


102 posted on 11/24/2009 1:15:28 AM PST by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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Now he'll make ten thousand speeches talking about how hard it was for him to wrestle with this difficult issue, and wait for the applause.

He thinks he deserves praise for not voting "present".

107 posted on 11/24/2009 3:03:29 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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“It's a quagmire!” “We can't win”. “He took his eye off the ball”. “Bring them home now”. “Obama is a war criminal”. “Impeach Obama”. “Lock Obama up”. “Obama kills innocent women and children”.

Since the left will be hypocrites about it then I guess I'll just go ahead and do to Obama what they did to President Bush.

108 posted on 11/24/2009 3:36:26 AM PST by tobyhill (The Communist has arrived)
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First the Friends reported that Barry would address the nation tonight in prime time to make this grand announcement. And that the RICH will pay for the war. Now it will come next Tuesday. I guess tonight is the big State Dinner so Barry has other plans...Jennifer Hudson is singing.


109 posted on 11/24/2009 3:38:19 AM PST by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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Am I correct that the brains in DC have now told the bad guys how long it will take to screw us?


110 posted on 11/24/2009 3:40:07 AM PST by Thebaddog (AYBABTU)
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” Obama is expected to announce his long-awaited decision on Dec. 1 “

everything after making that point is nothing but political theater

..... also a slight distraction from healthcare vote


112 posted on 11/24/2009 3:53:06 AM PST by SF_Redux
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I am sure the leak last month with the 30-40k troop increase was by someone who was trying to influence him on this with public opinion.

Remember how Hillary got her job as SOS? She went out and announced he had asked and she accepted on a Friday, by the following Monday it was now a fact, and Obama would look like an idiot if he didn’t give it to her.

This had the same feel to it right from the start. The numbers were released, the MSM ran with it, and now there was a baseline to judge his decision on. I would just love to know who put that fake former announcement out, whoever did it was brilliant in manipulating Obama’s team.


113 posted on 11/24/2009 4:35:22 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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Bring them all home.
Now.
114 posted on 11/24/2009 4:44:37 AM PST by novemberslady
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Democrats who are worried about the strain on the U.S. Treasury ...

Ahm, yes, we've seen them wring their hands about spending our money -

118 posted on 11/24/2009 5:53:02 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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