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Climategate: how the MSM reported the greatest scandal in modern science
Telegraph UK ^ | Nov 21, 2009 | James Delingpole

Posted on 11/21/2009 5:31:48 AM PST by PapaBear3625

Like the Telegraph’s MPs’ expenses scandal, this is the gift that goes on giving. It won’t, unfortunately, derail Copenhagen (too many vested interests involved) or cause any of our many political parties to start talking sense on “Climate change”. But what it does demonstrate is the growing level of public scepticism towards Al Gore’s Anthropogenic Global Warming theory. That’s why, for example, this story is the single most read item on today’s Telegraph website.

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But in the case of “Climate Change”, the MSM has been caught with its trousers down. The reason it has been so ill-equipped to report on this scandal is because almost all of its Environmental Correspondents and Environmental Editors are parti pris members of the Climate-Fear Promotion lobby. Most of their contacts (and information sources) work for biased lobby groups like Greenpeace and the WWF, or conspicuously pro-AGW government departments and Quangos such as the Carbon Trust. How can they bring themselves to report on skullduggery at Hadley Centre when the scientists involved are the very ones whose work they have done most to champion and whose pro-AGW views they share?

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climategate; cru; elisnyder; gavinschmidt; globalwarming; globalwarmingscam; gorebalism; gorebullwarming; hadleycru; liarsforjesus; liarsforscience; lyingscum; matchettpi; realclimate; science
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To: PreciousLiberty
That’s a rather elegant explanation of lie about the multi-cycle “no sunspots” periods during the Maunder Minimum.
161 posted on 11/21/2009 12:03:54 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: azkathy
Thanks, From CFP link: The Death Blow to Climate Science

Of course the IPCC Reports and especially the SPM Reports are the basis for Kyoto and the Copenhagen Accord, but now we know they are based on completely falsified and manipulated data and science. It is no longer a suspicion. Surely this is the death knell for the CRU, the IPCC, Kyoto and Copenhagen and the Carbon Credits shell game.

I sure hope he is right. There is so much money and power behind this. In normal times people should end up in jail.

162 posted on 11/21/2009 12:04:29 PM PST by opentalk
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To: editor-surveyor

“That’s a rather elegant lie about the multi-cycle “no sunspots” periods during the Maunder Minimum.”

I’m afraid you’re too cryptic for me. Care to explain further?

There’s no lie involved, all we know from the astronomers in those days is they could see no more spots. They had no idea why - if they were completely gone or were invisible.

What we do know is temperatures across the globe went quite a bit lower.


163 posted on 11/21/2009 12:31:12 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: PapaBear3625

so when will litigation start against algore(al gore) and all the other eco-KOOK hoaxers??(serra club). these people have been willing accomplices in a world wide fraud. They need to go to jail along side Bernie Madoff.


164 posted on 11/21/2009 12:47:48 PM PST by IGBT (..it's the Carbon-Con. A green slime license to purge you of all your money.)
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To: PA-RIVER

...and saved the world from Nazism.


165 posted on 11/21/2009 12:54:26 PM PST by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: Ronbo1948

We must take this war to our enemies using the same, if not more intense, tactics! We MUST win!


166 posted on 11/21/2009 12:58:06 PM PST by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: PapaBear3625
listen... warming, cooling, it was 50/50. so i took a shot!!!

Ohh WOE is me... whys everybody pickin on me???

167 posted on 11/21/2009 2:08:39 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Shady

You are correct! I just called in to a radio show and brought up the Hoax topic. I also emailed information to the host of that program.

I will be posting it and I suggest others do the same. Spread the news far and wide and even if the MSM won’t cover it, citizen journalists will.

I suggest doing it immediately before some emergency situation comes up and the “administration” shuts down the net. (Just because I am paranoid doesn’t mean “they” aren’t out there.)


168 posted on 11/21/2009 3:14:59 PM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: PreciousLiberty
There’s a hypothesis that they contribute to cloud formation, which would reflect more solar energy and cool the Earth.

The effect has been well known for over a century. See cloud chamber, a device which physicists have used to detect subatomic particles using this effect.

169 posted on 11/21/2009 3:40:18 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: PapaBear3625

“The effect has been well known for over a century. See cloud chamber, a device which physicists have used to detect subatomic particles using this effect.”

Cloud chambers are pretty cool...amazing even with ambient radiation at ground level.

However, the one study that’s been done so far shows no significant(?) extra cloud cover during high cosmic ray activity...so I’d have to say the jury’s still out. The reason I put the question mark in is that some cloud types like subvisual cirrus might be hard to detect.


170 posted on 11/21/2009 3:59:55 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: PapaBear3625
MSM TV News website summary (now 48 hours since the story broke):

FoxNews.com - Original story

MSNBC.com - Wapo story reprint

ABCNews.com - AP wire story reprint

CBSNews.com - AP wire story reprint

CNN.com - Nada

171 posted on 11/21/2009 4:02:44 PM PST by magellan
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To: PreciousLiberty

Spark chambers?


172 posted on 11/21/2009 5:04:30 PM PST by Das Outsider ("It's a California 'thang.'" -- Michael Savage)
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To: PapaBear3625
check this out :

NOAA: U.S. Posts Third Coolest-Highest Precipitation for October on Record

now we are all gonna die of global cooling !

173 posted on 11/21/2009 5:52:26 PM PST by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: backhoe; Cindy

Have either of you started, or run across an archive thread for “Climategate” yet here at FR?


174 posted on 11/21/2009 6:10:44 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Isn’t truth beautiful! :)


175 posted on 11/21/2009 6:14:22 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: penelopesire

Goebbels would be so proud...

[That truly is disgusting!]


176 posted on 11/21/2009 6:15:36 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: KTM rider

Didn’t we already know that though — I mean that’s what I was taught in school... That an ice-age was on the way. The unfortunate thing is that the public will now put off some definitely necessary things because these $%^(*#&$ lied. People who really do care about the environment (not the whiny-mouthed idiot liberal “environmentalists”) are going to have a harder time being believed by the general public. I hope they won’t be, but I fear that will be the outcome...


177 posted on 11/21/2009 6:20:27 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: PapaBear3625

Does anyone know the definition of Fraud in British Law?


178 posted on 11/21/2009 6:48:25 PM PST by Palmetto Patriot (Great minds think alike, but then again, so do small minds.)
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To: LibertyRocks

Yes indeed.

Truth is beautiful! :)
Greed is ugly! :(
Power corrupts! :(
This news story is the tip of an ugly and deep-seated cancerous growth!

The entire scientific community will suffer because politicians have trained scientists the same way that Pavlov trained dogs.

Research grants for the scientists.
Dog biscuits for the dogs.

Greed knows no limits; Power leads to arrogance and stupidity.

1. First NASA hid data showing that the interior of the Sun is mostly Iron (Fe), not Hydrogen (H).

2. Then DOE manufactured data showing that neutrinos from H-fusion in the Sun “oscillate” away before reaching our detectors.

3. Finally NAS very foolishly decided to tell the public that man-made CO2 has greater influence over Earth’s climate than our stormy Sun.

That’s my opinion,
Oliver K. Manuel
Former NASA PI for Apollo
http://www.omatumr.com/


179 posted on 11/21/2009 8:53:41 PM PST by Oliver K. Manuel (Truth is victorious, never untruth [Mundaka Upanishad 3.1.6; Qur'an 17.85])
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To: Oliver K. Manuel

I just can’t wait to ask my rep Congressman Jeff Flake how he feels about that new Cap and Trade bill he proposed.
I asked him a while back how could he dare jump on the bandwagon for a HOAX and give the environmentalists credibility?

Who has a credibility problem now? I can’t wait until they start pulling the GloBull warming commercials off the air.


180 posted on 11/21/2009 9:32:58 PM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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