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GOP decries 'rationing' on eve of health vote
Washington Times ^ | Saturday, November 21, 2009 | Jennifer Haberkorn

Posted on 11/21/2009 2:18:32 AM PST by JohnHuang2

One of the last three uncommitted Democrats, Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, said Friday he would vote to begin debate on the Senate's health care bill; meanwhile, the Republican opposition opened a new front, arguing that the legislation would lead to health care rationing.

Mr. Nelson said he would support the procedural vote scheduled for Saturday night because he didn't want to obstruct reform efforts. He also said he hoped to improve the legislation on the floor.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: 111th; benedictarnoldnelson; benedictnelson; bennelson; benodictarnoldnelson; bhohealthcare; bluedogs; nelson

Say, didn't a certain someone mention 'Death Panels'?

The "U.S. Preventive Services Task Force" -- otherwise known as Palin's "mythical" *Death Panel* which oddly would cease being "mythical" if ObamaPelosiReidCare became law -- is worried that too many American women in their 40s are having their breasts examined.

With precision timing, two weeks after National Breast Cancer Awareness Month, the government panel says that women should take their chances and wait until they reach 50 to get a mammogram. And even then only every other year.

Just a few years ago (in '02), the same infallible panel recommended annual mammograms for women in their 40s after a big drop in cancer death rates since the early '90s when routine mammography became standard practice. Now, based on no new evidence, the panel changed its mind.

Breast cancer is still the second leading cause of death in women -- but, relax. You can trust a government panel that changes its positions like Obama changes positions on Afghanistan.

Since many breast cancers are caught in women in their early 40s, the "report" says women in their 40s don't need mammograms. After much study, the government panel concluded that when a women receives a false-positive, it results in feeling anxiety. (In a separate study, the panel concluded that when a deer sees headlights, the deer feels anxiety.) So, by the "report"'s impressive logic, it's better to risk getting more severe cancer by delaying, rather than feeling anxiety for a few days from a false-positive result.

Obama told Congress in September that "routine checkups and preventative care, like mammograms" are good "because there's no reason we shouldn't be catching diseases like breast cancer and colon cancer before they get worse" -- unless a government-run Death Panel changes its mind.

Liberals are enraged that the panel's lunatic recommendation is being criticized. On the basis of having no radiologists and oncologists on the panel, the media considers this a panel of "experts".

In order to preserve the media meme that Palin's warning about Death Panels is still "false" despite the evidence, libbies have erected a series of phony defenses.

Phony defense No. 1 is that cost-control wasn't a factor in this bogus "study", yet the "report" mentions costs three times and, as Dr. Elizabeth Vliet (who actually is an expert on women's health) said on Fox News, the 'report' "was not based on new medical data, it was based on combining cost-effective data in the computer modeling to re-evaluate the data that supplied our current recommendations . . . and if (cancer screening for women in their 40s) saves lives, the point was it didn't save enough lives in younger women, so [the panel] felt, 'well, fine, we don't need to do it.' But if you're the woman whose life is saved, then it is important and that is why I think this is so critical for women to understand we're facing the possibility of rationing based on cost rather than women's lives."

Another bogus defense is that these are only 'guidelines', nothing to see here, move along. HHS secretary Kathleen Sebelius defended the panel by backing away from it, claiming it's just a recommendation from some 'independent panel' going rogue.

This panel is so rogue, Medicare gloms on to its guidelines "when it makes coverage decisions for seniors, and its judgments also play a large role in the private insurance markets," (WSJ, 11/19), and under Obamacare, "this task force [becomes] an arbiter of the benefits that private insurers will be required to cover as they are converted into government contractors" and "what are now merely recommendations will become de facto rules . . .," (WSJ, 11/19).

Liberals get hysterical when anyone suggests a link between abortion -- a procedure to save a woman from being "punished" with a baby -- and breast cancer, insisting that the "consensus" in the medical community is that no such link exists, yet the consensus in the medical community about the new mammogram recommendation is that it's full of crap, so libbies have worked themselves into a frenzy this week attacking the medical community.

Then, along come "new guidelines" from the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists urging women to wait until they reach 21 to have a Pap smear, which can prevent invasive cancer by detecting pre-cancerous changes in the cervix in time.

The ACOG's big flip-flopper-oo and the USPSTF's recommendation to fight cancer awareness because it makes women anxious are both just ObamaCare dress rehearsal, and if more women die that's okay with libbies -- can't make an omelet without eggs and can't build health care utopia without pushing for death panels and rationing. "Guidelines" from Obama's mastectomy-counters proliferate when doctors and patients no longer call the shots. But, don't worry, CBO says this tyranny is 'deficit nuetral'.

And if the timing of the cost-benefit "analysis" by the boobs on the USPSTF was goofy, it's of a piece with the Obumbler administration, which blew a trillion "stimulus" bucks on Congressional Districts which don't exist, can't find its policy on Afghanistan, can't decide if terrorist Hasan is a terrorist, can't govern with huge majorities in Congress, can't find a new home for Gitmo's harmless little darlings and thinks giving KSM a civilian trial will get al-Qaeda to come around while Iran's nuclear mullahs press full steam ahead on a radiology program of their own for Tel Aviv, Manhattan, Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, etc. Gallup yesterday pegged Obama's approval rate at 49 percent but, hold on, he's shooting for 40 percent by Christmas.

Anyway, that's...
My Two Cents...
"JohnHuang2"


1 posted on 11/21/2009 2:18:32 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

If this thing passes the floor Saturday night it is a done deal.

If Nelson thinks it will be improved on the floor , he is more ignorant than even I give him credit for.


2 posted on 11/21/2009 3:18:06 AM PST by Venturer
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To: JohnHuang2
Mr. Nelson said he would support the procedural vote scheduled for Saturday night because he didn't want to obstruct reform efforts. He also said he hoped to improve the legislation on the floor.

Mr. Nelson is playing to the ignorance and apathy of his constituents when he "hopes" to improve the legislation on the floor. What a mealy-mouthed statement!

3 posted on 11/21/2009 3:25:07 AM PST by olezip
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To: JohnHuang2

Here’s what the congressrats are saying behind our backs:

“Here’s the way we’ll pass this health bill. Put funding for abortion in the bill. Fight to keep it in the bill. Then, towards the end, lose that fight. Let the Republicans take abortion funding out of the bill. Let them appear to have won something. Then we get our bill. We wreck capitalism and install socialism. Later, judges will re-instate funding for abortion. Aren’t conservatives stupid? Tee-hee-hee.”


4 posted on 11/21/2009 3:36:41 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Venturer
Former Sen Rick Santorum fills in for Bill Bennett on Friday mornings. Yesterday he said that faxes to Senators are very effective, more effective than emails and right up there with phone calls. It also easier to send a fax than a phone call through a jammed voice system.

According to Santorum, the assumption is that for every fax, there are a hundred more like minded constituents.

5 posted on 11/21/2009 3:49:02 AM PST by Jacquerie (Support and Defend our Beloved Constitution.)
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To: samtheman

We are playing by the rules and they don’t. We can only bring this back to Janusry 19th 2009 if we prove this guy an imposter.


6 posted on 11/21/2009 3:57:31 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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To: ronnie raygun

We are being hornswaggled.

We are being played as suckers.

we are being manipulated.

We are willing participants in our own demise.


7 posted on 11/21/2009 4:05:06 AM PST by samtheman
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To: potlatch

8 posted on 11/21/2009 4:37:05 AM PST by devolve
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To: Venturer

As if there is anything such as a moderate, let alone conservative, Demonrat!! They’ve all been punked! Is there any doubt they could not get elected otherwise than to do the typical Demon party deceit and masquerade? Now they answer to the power hungry radicals that lead the way and ARE the HEART of the party and what Demonrats really are and answer to. I’m telling you there is no such thing as a centrist Demonrat when you get up to that level. They are all instruments of evil who have to deceive in certain districts to get their power hold. Now they are drunk on power and showing their true colors.


9 posted on 11/21/2009 4:53:39 AM PST by bushfamfan (United States of America: July 4, 1776-November 4, 2008)
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To: devolve

Good post.
The Joker can’t hide the truth though.


10 posted on 11/21/2009 12:11:27 PM PST by potlatch (ACTIONS - Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: potlatch


Tricky getting JOKER to jump around the way I planned

Site also was not letting my final version to download

Here are 2 of your great .gifs combined as Obamacare:



11 posted on 11/21/2009 4:40:29 PM PST by devolve
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To: devolve

They look great and the names stayed clear, which pleased me. When my computer is slow I also have some troubles in my animation programs.

Val was here earlier, said she had found a gif like her Shih Tsu but it was on a ‘no right click’ site. I told her to send me the url and I’ll get it.


12 posted on 11/21/2009 4:45:01 PM PST by potlatch (ACTIONS - Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: potlatch

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I-M Studio is excellent for retaining crispness of text

I first upside Flasher to 312x312 and the added 2 TP area side panels

Added the 2nd .gif and reduced size after cropping RS to height 250 which kept your text and image resolution good

Delay time was a compromise setting for 3 frames


13 posted on 11/21/2009 5:02:55 PM PST by devolve
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To: devolve

[I-M Studio is excellent for retaining crispness of text]
It seems so, unless they are made very tiny.

I often have to use triple the number of frames to have one thing move fast and another move slow. Takes some figuring!


14 posted on 11/21/2009 5:06:54 PM PST by potlatch (ACTIONS - Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: potlatch

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Lots of storyboarding, time, math, and plane geometry required to create good animated .gifs


15 posted on 11/21/2009 5:30:12 PM PST by devolve
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To: devolve
[math, and plane geometry required to create good animated .gifs]

I took every math except calculus in preparation for college. Solid geometry too, lol.

Makes you wonder if the young people, who can't even count out correct change without a cash register, could figure out the number of frames and delays to get correct timing on a number of figures in an animation?

16 posted on 11/21/2009 5:36:13 PM PST by potlatch (ACTIONS - Speak Louder Than Words)
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