Posted on 11/20/2009 5:42:26 AM PST by Texas Fossil
8.15 PM UPDATE: The Hadley CRU director admits the emails seem to be genuine:
The director of Britain’s leading Climate Research Unit, Phil Jones, has told Investigate magazine’s TGIF Edition tonight ..."It was a hacker. We were aware of this about three or four days ago that someone had hacked into our system and taken and copied loads of data files and emails."…
TGIF asked Jones about the controversial email discussing “hiding the decline”, and Jones explained what he was trying to say….
So the 1079 emails and 72 documents seem indeed evidence of a scandal involving most of the most prominent scientists pushing the man-made warming theory - a scandal that is one of the greatest in modern science. I’ve been adding some of the most astonishing in updates below - emails suggesting conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal destruction of embarrassing information, organised resistance to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public claims and much more. If it is as it now seems, never again will “peer review” be used to shout down sceptics.
This is clearly not the work of some hacker, but of an insider who’s now blown the whistle.
(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.news.com.au ...
Any of this get to Jake Tapper yet?
ABCNews has taken the point on shamulus money going to non-existent congressional districts. May be they can go on-point for this?
Or Inhofe (R-OKla.)?
The Gore photoshop was discussed inforum here yesterday with a bunch of images and spoofs. Search and ye shall find.
That is true to some extent but China and India (and numerous top scientists around the world) are deeply skeptical about global warming theory, and a majority of the American public is solidly in the skeptics camp. So if these emails are authentic I think this is going to seriously damage the already weak case for global warming theory.
I do not watch 1-hr per week of TV, so I do not have a clue.
Any support in the media will be appreciated.
Ping for later download of data. If anybody can get it now, I suggest you do so. It may disappear.
From the BBC report:
[’Inside information’
Graham Cluley, a computer security expert, suggested that December’s key climate summit in Copenhagen, which has made headlines around the world, could have increased the university’s profile as a possible target among hackers.
“There are passionate opinions on both sides of the climate debate and there will be people trying to knock down the other side,” Mr Cluley, senior technology consultant for Sophos, told BBC News.
“If they feel that they can gather inside information on what the other side is up to, then they may feel that is ammunition for their counterargument.”]
The blueprint for denial of the denialists’ soon to come challenges to the data has just been outlined.
Look for moves aimed at Steve McIntyre soon.
He’s the thorn under their saddle.
Since Al has been making money on this “fraud” can criminal, RICO, (any) charges be filed against him?
You can always tell a veteran Freeper.
They are often series and pwn hugh stuned beebers
d;^)
>> This could be an elaborate hoax...
Could be, but to what end other than a prank.
Interesting comments, but this is much more damaging than the usual “inside information.”
The link to Lupo outlines one exchange that clearly looks like criminal conspiracy to defraud alomg with tax evasion...
I tell you the truth, this story almost inspired me to take a shower.
I’m in the shower
Before it disappears, here is the text of the report and spin put on this from the Guardian.co.uk today:
“Hundreds of private emails and documents allegedly exchanged between some of the world’s leading climate scientists over the past 13 years have been stolen by hackers and leaked online. The computer files were apparently accessed earlier this week from servers at the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit, a world-renowned centre focused on the study of natural and anthropogenic climate change.
Climate change sceptics who have studied the emails allege that they provide “smoking gun” evidence that some of the climatologists colluded in manipulating data to support the widely held view among the world’s climatologists that climate change is real and is being largely caused by the actions of mankind. So far the veracity of the emails has not been confirmed and the scientists involved have declined to comment on the story which broke on a blog called The Air Vent.
The files, which in total amount to 61Mb of data, were first uploaded onto a Russian server, before being widely mirrored across the internet. The emails were accompanied by the anonymous statement, “We feel that climate science is, in the current situation, too important to be kept under wraps. We hereby release a random selection of correspondence, code, and documents. Hopefully it will give some insight into the science and the people behind it.”
A spokesperson for the University of East Anglia said: “We are aware that information from a server used for research information in one area of the university has been made available on public websites. Because of the volume of this information we cannot currently confirm that all of this material is genuine. This information has been obtained and published without our permission and we took immediate action to remove the server in question from operation. We are undertaking a thorough internal investigation and we have involved the police in this enquiry.”
Professor Phil Jones, the director of Climate Research Unit, features in many of the alleged emails. In one, dated November 1999, he discusses with three other climatologists how best to present data. This sentence, in particular, has been leaped on by sceptics as evidence of manipulating data, but, as yet, the veracity of the email has not been verified by the alleged sender or its recipients.
The emails also illustrate the persistent personal pressure some climatologists have been under from sceptics in recent years. There have been repeated calls, including Freedom of Information requests, for the Climate Research Unit to make public a confidential dataset of land-and-sea temperature recordings that is “value added” by the unit before being used by the Met Office. The emails show the frustration some climatologists have had at having to operate under such intense, often politically motivated, scrutiny.
When the Guardian asked Professor Jones to verify whether these emails were genuine, he refused to comment.
Professor Michael E Mann, director of Pennsylvania State University’s Earth System Science Centre and a regular contributor to the popular climate science blog Real Climate, is another prominent climatologist who features in many of the email exchanges. He said: “I’m simply not going to comment on the content of illegally obtained emails. However, I will say this: both their theft and, I believe, any reproduction of the emails that were obtained on public websites, etc, constitutes serious criminal activity. I’m hoping that the perpetrators and their facilitators will be tracked down and prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows.””
Some of us have been waiting to see what was in store since this popped up in the summer:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/07/26/deep-cool-the-mole-within-hadley-cru/
The Guardian is so full of BS. How can a "dataset of land-and-sea temperature recordings" be kept confidential when these people are advocating draconian cuts in the use of fossil fuels that would crush the US economy if those cuts were actually implemented? That's crazy. If these "scientists" are going to advocate that kind of radical change in the use of fossil fuels and the resulting massive economic disruption, then they must disclose all their data and all the assumptions and calculations that they use to make their climate forecasts. Full disclosure of all that stuff is very obviously mandatory when people are calling for such massive economic disruption. Anything less than full disclosure amounts to asking political leaders to just take their word for it that the world needs to be thrown into an economic collapse "to save the planet." I suspect they're smoking some kind of controlled substance at the Guardian and also at this "research center." These people are nuts...they're Euronuts. Fortunately Americans have naturally good judgment and we will not follow these European lemmings over the cliff into the sea.
On Rush now.
... now, now, let's not jump to any conclusions. (insert pic of Obambi)
Rush Limbaugh is covering this fraud on national radio — Right now!
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