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Ashcroft: Holder lacks legal authority to order terror trials
The Hill ^ | 11/18/09 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 11/19/2009 1:44:22 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet

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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

That was then , this is now. Then we as a Government, operated more or less Under the Constitution. Including its system of checks and balances.

That all changed November4, 2008. Aided and abetted by the Ministry of Misinformation, a/k/a liars and traitors, a/k/a the main stream media, the traitors who live in the United States put into political office the biggest bunch of American hating traitors that the world has ever known.

Thus, Holder and obama can do as they damn well please. Who is going to stop them? Thus far, no one has.


41 posted on 11/19/2009 5:50:04 PM PST by sport
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

All Obama has to do is tell Gates to turn them over. Of course, he would then have to personally take the responsibility, something which he is loathe to do.


42 posted on 11/19/2009 5:50:08 PM PST by expatpat
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Sure he does, legal authority flows from Da One

43 posted on 11/19/2009 5:52:15 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: MestaMachine

Either that or they’ve been injected with an RFID tag or some other type of nanotechnology tracking device! Just kidding:)


44 posted on 11/19/2009 5:56:19 PM PST by khnyny (The problem is Obama didn't grow up watching "Hogan's Heroes":)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet; ExTexasRedhead

This is hugh!

Maybe.


45 posted on 11/19/2009 6:01:21 PM PST by SouthTexas (God Bless our Fort Hood Troops)
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To: expatpat

That is it in a nutshell. You’re correct but if these 9/11 terrorists succeed in getting even more ‘lawyered up’ any judge has to throw the case out because they were not read their miranda rights. I have heard horrific stories of the terrorists crying torture and abuse (while they had it made in Gitmo even with issued prayer rugs and respect) from the ACLU’s mouth to Obama’s big ears.

It is definitely on Obama no matter what and sadly I really don’t think Obama cares about anything but putting Bush/Cheney/CIA on trial as Obama himself wants this more than the safety of this country.


46 posted on 11/19/2009 6:01:43 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: WestTexasWend; Conservative Vermont Vet

Either that or it’d be grounds for an appeal against conviction (and he will be convicted, BHO said so).


47 posted on 11/19/2009 6:02:02 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Only the President can make this directive.

SIX CRITICAL REASONS NOT TO TRY JIHAD TERRORISTS IN AMERICAN COURTS


THE MAN WHO DESPISES AMERICA


AWAKEN, O AMERICA, YOUR LIBERTY IS CALLING (Inspiring Video)

48 posted on 11/19/2009 6:05:56 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Impeachment !

That would take too long -- even if it was possible given that traitors and their RINO fellow travelers have a hold on Congress. But, there is plenty of justification for a Constitutional restoration following the model of the Honduran situation.

There is plenty of evidence to allow the Kenyan Usurper to be removed from office by those sworn to defend the Constitutionn from ALL enemies foreign and domestic. There are enoigh patrots left in th Pentagon and the federal bureaucracy to pull it off.
49 posted on 11/19/2009 6:06:11 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Can the WH remove jurisdiction from the military court?

Remember a high ranking military official months ago when Obama first ordered the break up of their military courts and Gitmo, saying

NO,SIR.

50 posted on 11/19/2009 6:09:09 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Since when has lacking legal authority for anything stopped the left?


51 posted on 11/19/2009 6:14:02 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: livius

Does Obama have the authority to force the resignation or to fire Robert Gates? If he does, he will simply fire Gates and replace him with another lackey who will do whatever the zero tells him, legal, illegal, or unconstitutional.


52 posted on 11/19/2009 6:14:55 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Bottom line: This was/is Obama’s decision, not Holder’s.


53 posted on 11/19/2009 6:16:11 PM PST by TexasNative2000 (There's a reason the oath talks about defending the country from enemies both "foreign AND domestic")
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

It is BIG! because it means OBOZO CAN”T DENY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS TRUE ASSAULT ON OUR AMERICA!!! It is a Travesty of Justice and makes a Mockery of Our Freedoms when Terrorists caught in the Battlefield are given kid gloves treatment and all of the Freedoms we work so hard to have for Our Families! Obama truly Hates AMERICA!! Read His History, Read his Quotations! Lokk at all of his Terrorist Friends, be they William Ayers, Bernadette Dohrn, Reverend Wright, Castro, Hugo Chavez ad infinitum..


54 posted on 11/19/2009 6:16:56 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: 1066AD
This is another point worth discussing. Today I read somewhere Obama and or Holder GUARANTEED these terrorists convictions.

Isn't this going against the very thing Obama and Holder are seemingly trying to do? They preach the liberal mantra.. Being fair, give justice to the poor, poor crybaby tortured by Bush; terrorists?

If they are GUARANTEEING the terrorists convictions BEFORE the trial THIS ALONE could throw the trial. HOW and WHO IN THE HELL do they think they are as attorneys muchless CIC and AG to call a plea before a trial had begun?

55 posted on 11/19/2009 6:21:14 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: livius
It is quite possible that jurisdiction is going to be the thing that undoes all of this.

Here's a question: Lacking an application for some kind of intercession can the USSC intervene on it's own to stop this?

56 posted on 11/19/2009 6:30:35 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: K-oneTexas

Yes, but there has been denials that Obama ordered it.

Score one for Ashcroft.


57 posted on 11/19/2009 6:30:52 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners, no mercy. 2010 awaits...)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Whack. Rightly so.


58 posted on 11/19/2009 6:57:04 PM PST by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: Typical_Whitey

10/4.


59 posted on 11/19/2009 6:59:14 PM PST by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

It is all a farce. A “comedy” of Nazism to destroy our Constitution, our Liberty, our Freedom and our Nation.


60 posted on 11/19/2009 7:02:16 PM PST by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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