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Ashcroft: Holder lacks legal authority to order terror trials
The Hill ^
| 11/18/09
| Michael O'Brien
Posted on 11/19/2009 1:44:22 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet
Attorney General Eric Holder lacks authority to make a decision on moving terror detainees to civilian courts for trial, one of his predecessors said Wednesday.
Former Attorney General John Ashcroft, who held his position during the Bush administration from 2001-2005, said that Holder lacked the legal standing to decide to move alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and other terror detainees to federal courts in New York City to stand trial. >p>
"The attorney general doesn't have the authority to mandate that the secretary of Defense turn somebody over to him and yield jurisdiction so that something that would have been done in a military setting is done in a civilian setting," Ashcroft told the Christ Stigall show on KCMO radio this morning.
"I believe that this is a decision that comes as a result of the president making the decision, or if not making the decision, allowing an attorney general to do what he normally doesn't have the authority to do, and could only do at the acquiescence of the president," the former AG and former Missouri senator argued.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ashcroft; bhodoj; citizenrights; democrats; holder; iffbcb; ksm; military; militarytribunals; obama; terrorists; veterans; waronterror
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To: MestaMachine
KSM, et al can lie to infidels all live long day. I wouldn't doubt that they force NYPD to escort KSM to ground zero during the trial.
This admin is full of sadistic sob's.
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posted on
11/20/2009 2:36:47 PM PST
by
floriduh voter
(Marco Rubio is Florida's Man of the Year imo)
To: thouworm
There is no lie Holder won't tell in order to get this done. Graham and the others stripped him naked at the hearing and whipped him like a school boy. Instead of the media pointing out that Holder was incompetent and couldn't answer challenges, we get low level rumbling if anything. I watched the watergate, Iran-Contra, and Clinton impeachment hearings gavel to gavel and I don't recall anyone being dressd down and made to look as inadequate for the job as this guy.
It is merely a bash Bush and not-Bush decision by OB. They don't give a damn.
When this guy walks, it will be the death knell for the OB presidency.
To: Conservative Vermont Vet
We have to get down in the mud and fight these bastards on their own turf.
They care not about law.
We have to destroy them every time they screw up like with the mammograms every two years. That's when they are vulnerable.
Let's don't waste a lot of time playing gotcha when we can't nail them. They have judges and law in their corner, nail them when they screw up publicly which is most of the time.
123
posted on
11/20/2009 5:12:59 PM PST
by
rodguy911
(HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
To: MestaMachine
I think its more triangulation,/astroturfing.
Zero is pleasing the left of the U.S. by giving the terrorists a trial in the U.S., plus he buys more votes in the mideast by giving KSM and others a huge platform to chat about just how bad the infidels are here.
It's pretty slick.
If KSM is found guilty and killed The Joker can play the martyr game with his terror buddies and still get massive campaign money for 2012.
It's a pretty slick move by the worst potus in the history of the country, probably put together by Axeldork.
124
posted on
11/20/2009 5:21:55 PM PST
by
rodguy911
(HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
To: AliVeritas
Amazing stuff! Morris is brilliant! Thanks Ali.
Morris said 700 billion is now under control of the imams an that figure could go to 3 or 4 trillion, amazing.We are so screwed.
125
posted on
11/20/2009 5:34:57 PM PST
by
rodguy911
(HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
To: Alberta's Child
Holder was indeed a ‘babbling idiot’. Truthfully, how can he be the USAG? I would have expected some sort of references to case law when Lindsay Graham was questioning him.
Lame. Just like his fearless leader, O’Zero.
126
posted on
11/21/2009 10:31:36 AM PST
by
FreeStateYank
(I want my country and constitution back, now!)
To: khnyny
“Either that or theyve been injected with an RFID tag or some other type of nanotechnology tracking device! Just kidding:)”
Visual effect of Fat Bast*rd in Austin Powers....you know where THAT tracking device was placed, lol.
127
posted on
11/21/2009 10:37:03 AM PST
by
FreeStateYank
(I want my country and constitution back, now!)
To: FreeStateYank; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...
128
posted on
11/22/2009 12:20:57 PM PST
by
FARS
( Be Happy, be Well and Thrive)
To: Conservative Vermont Vet; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...
129
posted on
11/22/2009 12:24:46 PM PST
by
Nachum
(The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
To: K-oneTexas
We’ve, apparently, already been defeated and under a dictatorship.
There are enemies within our government at every level.
130
posted on
11/22/2009 12:41:22 PM PST
by
ExTexasRedhead
(clean the sewer in 2010 and 2012)
To: Conservative Vermont Vet
This is big, but the Daily Kos Kiddies running the show don’t care and will continue on with their moronic plans.
131
posted on
11/22/2009 1:23:53 PM PST
by
Darksheare
(Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
To: MestaMachine
What do you suppose our “I will stand with the Muslims” so called POTUS would do if this trial brought on a terrorist attack?
Obama apparently is willing to risk it. Why?
132
posted on
11/22/2009 1:24:36 PM PST
by
Aria
( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
To: Conservative Vermont Vet
To: Aria
Because there is an election in 2010 and his party will lose. Something has to happen before then.
134
posted on
11/22/2009 2:14:58 PM PST
by
MestaMachine
(One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1. Afghanistan Updates Daily on My Profile)
To: K-oneTexas
They might not reverse their decision, but now they’ve been nicely showcased as idiot control-freak showoffs...
135
posted on
11/22/2009 2:37:06 PM PST
by
GOPJ
(ObamaCare - slush fund scam that would make Bernie Madoff blush.)
To: MestaMachine
That’s what I’m worried about.
I’ll be grateful if we even have elections next year....and then if they’re even close to honest.
136
posted on
11/22/2009 2:50:37 PM PST
by
Aria
( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
To: FARS
Looks like John Ashcroft will be put on the DHS list since he is criticizing the Obama administration... MEGA SARCASM !!
Can't criticize the first black president and the first black attorney general.
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posted on
11/22/2009 5:05:49 PM PST
by
American Constitutionalist
(There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
To: nikos1121
Because they have been bullied to shut up from political correctness.
138
posted on
11/22/2009 5:08:40 PM PST
by
American Constitutionalist
(There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Nope, I’ve been waiting for somebody to mention the fact that the AG has no power over the military or it’s detainees since Obama played the see no evil card.
139
posted on
11/22/2009 5:16:10 PM PST
by
jwalsh07
(Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what you can do for Obama.)
To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Where are they going to find a jury that does not know about 911 and has not heard about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed ?
Where are they going to find anyone who will be impartial ?
Any ? by their own hate crimes laws, wouldn't those who pass judgment on Khalid be brought up on Hate Crimes for passing judgment on a Muslim ?
Isn't their " guarantee " of their prediction that he will be convicted bringing prejudice before the trial and it won't be a fair trial ? how can they bring him to the USA and try him in our civil court system , give him the same rights as US citizens, but, still, prejudge the trial, no guarantee that the trial and the jury will be impartial.
How can they guarantee that he will be convicted and still get around the hate crimes laws ?
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posted on
11/22/2009 5:23:49 PM PST
by
American Constitutionalist
(There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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