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To: CitizenUSA
First I use Apple computers. I would like to have a greater choice in hardware. But the cold hard fact is Apple shoots themselves in the foot by forcing a consumer to buy their hardware to use there software. Therefore they have a much smaller market share. Every computer Pystar sold put money in Apples pockets. Also Apple sells some good software apps. But they only run on 5% percent of comps. now that's really stupid!
If Steve Jobs had a brain he would allow the Mac OS to run
a PC.
8 posted on 11/18/2009 2:36:52 PM PST by Mr. Right Now
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To: Mr. Right Now
You were saying ...

But the cold hard fact is Apple shoots themselves in the foot by forcing a consumer to buy their hardware to use there software.

Actually what you call Apple shooting themselves in the foot -- is -- what makes Apple wildly successful and has given them a war chest of cash-in-hand and makes them the darling of Wall Street.

I would say that's their formula to success... :-)


But they only run on 5% percent of comps. now that's really stupid!

Apple Macintosh computers actually run 100% of the Windows/OS X software on the market -- in other words doing a whole lot better than Windows in that Macintosh can "run it all"... :-)

For Jobs being so stupid (as you say) it would seem that no one (either Wall Street or Macintosh users) want him to go away and/or stop doing what he's been doing all this time.


If Steve Jobs had a brain he would allow the Mac OS to run a PC.

I would say that Jobs has gone way past that point and has been proven to have not only a brain, but a knack for making Apple wildly successful... :-)

It's been the clearly stated aim/goal/policy of Apple (and Steve Jobs) to have complete design/manufacturing control over the hardware and software as an integrated whole and for that to be the cornerstone of their wildly successful run over the last decade.

If they had not done that, they would not be successful today.

The wishes of a few hackers in the market to run on Mac OS X on some generic beige knock-off boxes is not the formula for success for Apple and to keep the wildly successful products of Apple rolling out for its customers.

12 posted on 11/18/2009 4:41:40 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Mr. Right Now
If Steve Jobs had a brain he would allow the Mac OS to run a PC.

And Apple would be bankrupt within two years.

Last fiscal year, Apple's profit from Mac sales was about 40% of all of their profits or about $2.6 billion. Just to replace the income stream from the sale of the slightly more than 10 million Mac computers sold last year with the sale of OEM OS software, assuming a $50 profit on each OS sold, Apple would have to sell more than 53,000,000 units EVERY year.

In actual fact, bulk OEM OSes are actually only about $40 bucks of which only about $30 is profit. So now it would take the sale of 90 million units, or almost ALL PC sales in the US per year would have to run Mac OS just to break even with what Apple is doing now selling hardware...

Good thing YOU aren't running Apple.

16 posted on 11/18/2009 6:07:08 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Mr. Right Now; Swordmaker; Star Traveler
> First I use Apple computers. I would like to have a greater choice in hardware.

Apple sells SYSTEMS, not software. Get that. SYSTEMS.

Apple makes their money on the hardware part (you may have noticed this, maybe not). The software is only part of a SYSTEM comprised of hardware and software and support. They cannot make money selling only software -- in fact I'd bet they sell the software at a loss, but that's my speculation.

THEIR BUSINESS MODEL WORKS WELL. You may have noticed that.

> But the cold hard fact is Apple shoots themselves in the foot by forcing a consumer to buy their hardware to use there software. Therefore they have a much smaller market share. Every computer Pystar sold put money in Apples pockets.

WRONG. See above. Apple doesn't make money on the software. They make money on the hardware. Every computer Psystar sold was a computer Apple LOST money on, if my estimate is correct.

> Also Apple sells some good software apps. But they only run on 5% percent of comps. now that's really stupid!

Yep, so stupid they're making money hand over fist while the rest of the PC market scrapes and grovels over tiny margins. Real stupid...

> If Steve Jobs had a brain he would allow the Mac OS to run a PC.

And if you had a brain you'd study his very successful business model before suggesting he run his successful company into the ground trying to be Microsoft.

One last time: Apple sells SYSTEMS. They make their money on the hardware part of the system. The software is not the money maker.

Got it?

18 posted on 11/18/2009 8:36:42 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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