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V-22 Osprey, stealth jumpjet 'need refrigerated landing pads' [Melts flight deck]
The Register ^ | 17 November 2009 | Lewis Page

Posted on 11/17/2009 9:37:55 AM PST by Fractal Trader

t's now official. The new generation of high-tech hovering aircraft - namely the famous V-22 "Osprey" tiltrotor and the upcoming F-35B supersonic stealth jump-jet - have an unforeseen flaw. Their exhaust downwash is so hot as to melt the flight decks of US warships, leading Pentagon boffins to look into refrigerated landing pads.g

Stories of buckled flight decks caused by Osprey exhaust have been circulating for a while, but confirmation that the issue is seen as serious comes with the issue of a military request for proposals yesterday for "thermal management systems (TMS) for aircraft landing decks".

The proposal makes it clear that the Osprey - which is now in active combat service with the US Marines following a painful twenty-year gestation - has already been fingered as a deck-damaging craft. The F-35B stealth jumpjet, which has just commenced hover flight testing, is also expected to be fielded soon by the Marines, and could be an even worse pad-melter.

According to the request:

The deployment of the MV-22 Osprey has resulted in ship flight deck buckling that has been attributed to the excessive heat impact from engine exhaust plumes. Navy studies have indicated that repeated deck buckling will likely cause deck failure before planned ship life. With the upcoming deployment of the F-35B Short Take Off and Vertical Landing (STOVL) Joint Strike Fighter (JSF), it is anticipated that the engine exhaust plumes may have a more severe thermo-mechanical impact on the non-skid surface and flight deck structure of ships. Currently, there are no available strategies to mitigate deck buckling and thermal-mechanical deck failure other than heavy structural modifications.

(Excerpt) Read more at theregister.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: exaggeration; mv22; navair; osprey; v22
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Their exhaust downwash is so hot as to melt the flight decks of US warships

I'm so glad that they thought about this in advance.

/sarc

1 posted on 11/17/2009 9:37:55 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

” Their exhaust downwash is so hot as to melt the flight decks of US warships, leading Pentagon boffins to look into refrigerated landing pads.g “

What mental midgets missed this one?


2 posted on 11/17/2009 9:39:04 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: Fractal Trader

They’ve been operating Harriers for decades. Didn’t they learn anything from them?


3 posted on 11/17/2009 9:41:18 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Fractal Trader

er, the v-22 osprey has a heat exhaust downwards? Its a rotary system, like a helicopter


4 posted on 11/17/2009 9:41:45 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: Fractal Trader

Ceramics?


5 posted on 11/17/2009 9:42:16 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: Fractal Trader

“....fryin’ chickens in the barn yard...” —Gen. Turgidson.


6 posted on 11/17/2009 9:42:52 AM PST by boocoowell (Nuclear power now!)
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To: 4rcane

Turbo prop, the turbine exhaust is plenty hot.


7 posted on 11/17/2009 9:44:04 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: 4rcane

Turbo-prop.


8 posted on 11/17/2009 9:44:13 AM PST by Hazwaste (Some people are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: Fractal Trader

I’m no engineer, but wouldn’t ceramic tiles - with mechanical fasteners rather than adhesive - be MUCH cheaper than some kind of refrigeration? It seems to me that you could replace a whole lot of tiles and still not reach the expense of installing and maintaining some complicated refrigeration system.


9 posted on 11/17/2009 9:45:00 AM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

The same kind of egg heads who want to run our health care system....


10 posted on 11/17/2009 9:45:10 AM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: 4rcane
In the hovering position, the engines are vertical. Intakes are up and exhaust is down.
11 posted on 11/17/2009 9:45:45 AM PST by ryan71 (Smells like a revolution)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Harriers don’t put out the same amount of heat as an F-35. They are already aware of the F-35 exhaust situation as it also has an effect on concrete runway surfaces also.


12 posted on 11/17/2009 9:45:45 AM PST by Always Independent
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To: Right Wing Assault

First thing I thought too. Like Space Shuttle tiles.


13 posted on 11/17/2009 9:46:17 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: Fractal Trader
Do ya think the engineers might have anticipated this?

I forgot. Aerospace projects aren't run by the engineers. They're run by Congress.

14 posted on 11/17/2009 9:46:17 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
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To: 4rcane
er, the v-22 osprey has a heat exhaust downwards? Its a rotary system, like a helicopter

The rotters are driven by turboprop engines. When the nacelles are rotated the rear exhaust of the engines is just a few feet over the deck and pointed down. So even if the engines are idling they are cooking the deck.
15 posted on 11/17/2009 9:46:34 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Right Wing Assault
Ceramics?

Excellent idea, but are ceramics too fragile? The Shuttle tiles have a tough time with small impacts, even at relatively low speeds.

16 posted on 11/17/2009 9:46:43 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Fractal Trader

The V22 is a damn helicopter


17 posted on 11/17/2009 9:46:50 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
What mental midgets missed this one?

When you look at the Osprey, it certainly doesn't seem like the flight deck should be in any danger. I wonder if the author has all of his facts correct. It just doesn't seem possible that this engine, 4'9" above a flight deck would generate enough heat to melt the deck.


18 posted on 11/17/2009 9:48:03 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Fractal Trader

Another, “Doh!” moment. “I say, this IS rather embarassing,” said with my best impression of Terry Thomas.


19 posted on 11/17/2009 9:49:18 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Fractal Trader

Titanium landing pads.


20 posted on 11/17/2009 9:49:40 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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