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"It's a framework to ensure cultural sensitivity in planning and executing operations," said Capt. Thoreen. "It's a set of rules and could be characterized as part of the ROE," he said, referring to the rules of engagement.
1 posted on 11/16/2009 10:49:20 AM PST by 444Flyer
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"..."We have to follow the Karzai 12 rules. But the Taliban has no rules," he said. "Our soldiers have to juggle all these rules and regulations and they do it without hesitation despite everything. It's not easy for anyone out here."

"Karzai 12" refers to Afghanistan's newly re-elected president, Hamid Karzai, and a dozen rules set down by Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the commander of U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan, to try to keep Afghan civilian casualties to a minimum."

2 posted on 11/16/2009 10:50:51 AM PST by 444Flyer ("The angel of the LORD encamps all around those who fear Him, and delivers them." Psalm 34:7)
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Our troops in Afghanistan are handcuffed by political correctness. If we don't want to allow them to win, let's bring them home before a single American soldier there is killed for nothing.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

3 posted on 11/16/2009 10:51:50 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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God bless our troops...God keep 'em safe, despite the actions of the current pathetic occupant of the White House.


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4 posted on 11/16/2009 10:53:13 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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At least they don’t have to tie one hand behind their back and hop on one foot.

But I hear those terms are being negotiated as we speak. The sticking points are whether a skip is allowed between swapping which foot the GI’s have to hop on; or whether they simply are limited to only using one foot for the duration of the day.


7 posted on 11/16/2009 10:54:38 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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"It's OK for the insurgents to use their women to hide weapons but it's not OK for us [men] to search them," said Staff Sgt. Joshua Yost, 27, of Shelton, Wash. "So now, we have to break our own rules and bring women into combat just so they can search the women."
10 posted on 11/16/2009 11:02:20 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Saoirise; MestaMachine; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; mojitojoe; TomasUSMC; Vn_survivor_67-68; Nachum; ...

Ping. More news on Obama’s ROE’s from the Troop’s perspective.


11 posted on 11/16/2009 11:04:56 AM PST by 444Flyer ("The angel of the LORD encamps all around those who fear Him, and delivers them." Psalm 34:7)
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It’s time to review the ROI - Rules of Impeachment.


14 posted on 11/16/2009 11:09:32 AM PST by taraytarah (Our Constitution must be defended and protected from all domestic enemies.)
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WHY has it taken so long for the press to tell the f****n TRUTH about what is going on there!!! I am sick to death of hearing how GWB abandoned Afghanistan and that is why we are seeing it spiral out of control!!

I am so effin angry right now!!! With these ROE we are the biggest and best propaganda tool for all Jihad! The Taliban taking down the Great Satan, the Infidel!! And ya know what? It is true, because our troops can’t fight back! We train them to fight and then send them to be targets!!!

This is not acceptable! I don’t know how we can wait until 2010, how many more will be arriving at Dover? How many more will be at Walter Reed and Bethesda? These are our children, grandchildren, husbands, wives, cousins, best friends, etc.

If this is the way it is going to be then bring them home! A million more troops cannot fight under these circumstances. Hell, they are not even allowed to fight!!

I understand that people will die in war. I have respect for all of those who serve. I get a little sideways when I hear people on the left say that they are so sad about the deaths of those in the military. I have family in the military, they are not stupid, they were not floundering through life without any options, they joined because they WANTED TO, THEY WERE AND ARE PROUD TO SERVE. They feel it their duty. I won’t pity them, I will salute them and thank them and pray for them everyday! However I will not stand by and watch them die defenselessly.

I know this article to be 100% TRUE! From the Marines that I have spoken to since Obama has been in office. And I am sick to my stomach reading it!

Sorry for the rant!


27 posted on 11/16/2009 4:14:46 PM PST by panthermom
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Hmm, would I follow the “Karzai 12” or the USMC “4’ = RTFA.

ready-team-fire-assist, RELOAD
bye bye bad guy


30 posted on 11/16/2009 6:03:43 PM PST by Saoirise (Let Them Fight OR Bring Them HOME)
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We need to get out our troops until obambi is gotten out of the White House. Once obambi is out and a non POS is in, we can then proceed. We also need to remember that Gen. McCrap is supporting the handcuffing of our troops, he should be tried for having no spine, no loyalty to his troops, helping the enemy,....


39 posted on 11/16/2009 8:03:44 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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