Thanks libs.
If the proceedings are not going to be classified, why are even the Rats tolerating Bummer any more.
the list, ping
Bush's fault.
First off these guys are going to pay a huge price for this pitiful miscalculation.
Americans are the most productive people anywhere and that is because we are the ultimate multi-taskers.
They are just adding to the pile of stuff we are concerned about or angry over. This is just one more log on the fire and we are the ones who have to manage it with our own pokers.
They are very, very mistaken about our ability to wage opposition on a multitude of issues and we will oppose them at every turn.
The funny part, is these war criminals could very well be acquitted.
Why? How?
First off, bringing them to New York? That is beyond laughable. No way could they get a fair trial so their defense attorneys will argue change of venue. It will be granted but where will it ultimately be tried?
Second, Miranda Rights. Not having received them, much of the evidence against them will be quashed or suppressed. Any that is brought forth will be challenged for chain of command or better yet defense will motion for discovery and los and behold they will have to conjure up a battle ship by the name of USS New York. Said ship is constructed of material from the World Trade Center girders but, unfortunately it has been altered.
Where are the remains of the planes?
How did the Hijackers gain control and what weapons where used?
What about 911 truther theories? Someone is going to bring that up and test it.
This will be a great idea: “Hey, uh, Attorney General, why don’t you try them together”. The punch line is, a jury will need to find All of them guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. They won’t be able to.
Guantanamo and Habeas Corpus, which will likely come up twice. It will most certainly come up when the Defense demands dismissal for failure to bring forth a timely trial and as such again chain of command over all aspects of the case will come up. Funny, when the government starts pulling change of holding status it will become a huge defect in their case.
Why weren't these alleged murderers (Okay, we still call them terrorist) all availed a competent attorney, who cold pursue a logical, lawful and legal case that follows a traditional path and in some way makes sense?
Torture of a suspect to coerce a confession is not cool. Now if they in jeopardy under the military code of justice as battlefield prisoners then big deal.
But, and really big BUT, when this happens in the traditional area of law enforcement, we let guys go who are indeed really bad guys and we hand them a check. In this case it could indeed be a rather large check.
What about pursuing civil rights violations? Being held against your will in another country? Whoa, man, that is pretty heavy. Being forced to take medication against one’s will, what if they died or were scared silly?
What about the schlubs that got let go? The defense will want to question them but, alas they will not be available for examination. Why is that important? They were rounded up like cattle with the other “alleged” terrorists, now criminals and they may have information relevant to exoneration of these alleged murders.
Well, well, well...now what will become of the suspects upon acquittal? Where will we release them? What if they claim to be stateless? Who will take them?
Couldn't they apply for asylum? Couldn't they make a “Federal Case” out of hardship and begin the process of citizenship or alien residency?
What about their ability to go on the college circuit giving speeches?
They are, after all, men who have been held for years for a crime of which they were acquitted.
Shouldn't they be free to move about the country while they pursue a counter suit and damages for being kidnapped and held as political prisoners for years?
Can't they sue for damages and their lost lives of the last 8 years?
This is going to be fun, for the alleged murderers and they are going to bask in the Arab and m uslim adoration world wide, while making a fool of our government and justice system.
We, the American Public, are going to be rightfully angry when we let these animals go. But that is the way is the cookie crumbles.
Enjoy the next 5-7 years while the government does their dog and pony show.
Me, I think I will begin eating popcorn without butter.
Click on the title of this sad satire, as this one is just so apt:
Anyone recollect Nancy Pelosi’s vendetta against the CIA for which she never apologized or explained? Underhanded redux in NY!
These trials will put the administration of Justice into deep disrepute.
You think that government lawyers are hated now? Wait until these trials start! They will need 24/7 security.
WHen they are done, America will have incredible disrespect for the Courts and the Justice system of the United STates.
Obama may be creating his own death bed, IMHO.
This is going to be a circus.
This will be used as evidence that Obama is working for the other side.
If we elected an AQ agent, how would he act differently? KSM and the others will get off because of “torture” and AQ will get a publicity bonanza.
ping for later
Huessein is paying back those that put him through school and into power.
Hopefully, the judge will supress those motions by the defense during pre-trial motions under the Classified Information Procedures Act.The primary purpose of CIPA was to limit the practice of graymail by criminal defendants in possession of sensitive government secrets. “Gray mail” refers to the threat by a criminal defendant to disclose classified information during the course of a trial.
The treatment of the 9/11 attacks as a criminal matter rather than as an act of war will cripple American efforts to fight terrorism. It is, in effect, a declaration that this nation is no longer at war.
KSM's lawyers will not save the government from itself. Instead they will press hard to reveal intelligence secrets in open court. Our intelligence agents and soldiers will be the ones to suffer.
It should close: Our nation will suffer gravely.
Trying KSM and the others in GITMO in open federal court is a disaster in so many ways, however the worst scenario is that one or more of these terrorists may be acquitted.
...claiming National Security would be harmed.
Put the own mess back on Obamah !!!