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Funny, you don't look related [how did (extinct) Falkland Island wolf first get there?]
UCLA ^ | 12-Nov-2009 | Stuart Wolpert

Posted on 11/14/2009 9:44:11 AM PST by Pharmboy

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Floated in on an iceberg...could happen.
1 posted on 11/14/2009 9:44:11 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: blam; SunkenCiv; neverdem; Coleus; aculeus; thefactor

Extinct wolf ping...and blam, this gives another way for early humans to get around, eh? If wolves could float on icebergs, why not Siberians getting to South America that way?? Have you heard of this before?


2 posted on 11/14/2009 9:46:50 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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The wolves got a ride from aliens.


3 posted on 11/14/2009 9:50:06 AM PST by rbosque (10 year Freeper!)
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We really don’t know when the first boats or rafts appeared on the scene either. It may not have taken an iceberg.


4 posted on 11/14/2009 9:50:15 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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“The closet living relative of the maned wolf is the bush dog...”

Either these scientists haven’t learned to proofread or they’re floating a hoax.

5 posted on 11/14/2009 9:54:28 AM PST by Mobties
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I am voting for them getting there due to defective Acme rocket packs. Wiley Coyote...oh never mind....


6 posted on 11/14/2009 10:05:57 AM PST by dog breath
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Land bridge during period of lower ocean waters? The oceans have been rising since the last ice age.


7 posted on 11/14/2009 10:19:05 AM PST by matt1234
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It seems to me that over the years, as we learned more about some fields of science -- like, say, chemistry or nuclear physics -- a lot of the mystery went out of it. Not all, mind you: there are still areas we don't understand and which we find baffling. But to a large extent, we have come to understand why nuclear physics is the way it is, or why chemical reactions have certain outcomes. As we collect data, our understanding deepens.

It seems to work the opposite way with evolution. As we collect data, we suddenly need to dream up explanations. A wolf on the Falklands? Maybe icebergs, maybe a land bridge, I dunno. The Pre-Cambrian Explosion?? I dunno, let's call it "punctuated equilibrium". Actual tissue from a T. Tex? Tissue which is, what? 60 million years old? Well ... I'll get back to you.

I do not think that our understanding of evolution is deepening. I think the tale is getting more and more complex and unsustainable.

8 posted on 11/14/2009 10:27:29 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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I think they ruled that out...but blam would likely know.


9 posted on 11/14/2009 10:27:46 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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"Land bridge during period of lower ocean waters? The oceans have been rising since the last ice age.

No.

Here is a map of the world with the depth of the oceans reduced a little more than 300 feet.

Maybe Homo Erectus took him there?

10 posted on 11/14/2009 11:28:21 AM PST by blam
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"Have you heard of this before?"

No.

I woke the other morning about and idea. Many have speculated about the why, when and how humans began travelling by boat/raft.
My thought was, how many times would a person have to jump into the water to be saved from a large predator cat and grab a log for support before it struck them that living on a raft has a number of benefits.
Then, pretty soon, people are travelling all over the world on rafts/boats in very early times.

11 posted on 11/14/2009 11:38:29 AM PST by blam
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To: Pharmboy

bttt


12 posted on 11/14/2009 11:54:09 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Mobties

What do you mean?


13 posted on 11/14/2009 11:57:51 AM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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Closet?


14 posted on 11/14/2009 12:03:21 PM PST by Mobties
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It seems to me that over the years, as we learned more about some fields of science -- like, say, chemistry or nuclear physics [...] As we collect data, our understanding deepens.

It seems to work the opposite way with evolution. As we collect data, we suddenly need to dream up explanations. A wolf on the Falklands? Maybe icebergs, maybe a land bridge, I dunno.

I don't see how you attach that generalization to this case, where new data has honed our knowledge. No, we still don't know how this animal got onto this island originally, and probably never will. But, by clarifying the timeline, the new data has eliminated one hypothesis: that humans brought them. We also now know the closest relatives of this Canid.

15 posted on 11/15/2009 6:20:07 AM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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Thanks Pharmboy.

Falklands Wolf First Appeared in North America, Researchers Say
The New York Times | 04 Nov 2009 | Henry Fountain
Posted on 11/05/2009 11:04:05 AM PST by BGHater
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16 posted on 11/15/2009 4:17:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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17 posted on 11/15/2009 4:20:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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18 posted on 11/15/2009 4:20:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Darwin was baffled by how this animal got on the islands

Ceiling Cat knows.

19 posted on 11/15/2009 4:39:49 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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20 posted on 11/15/2009 4:45:43 PM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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