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Owens May Have to Be Removed (Developing NY23 not over/Doug Hoffman still has a chance!)
Doug Hoffman via his Facebook page/The Gouverneur Times ^ | Friday November 13, 2009 12:25pm EST | Nathan Barker

Posted on 11/13/2009 9:34:20 AM PST by pillut48

As it stands now, Bill Owens may be in Washington and voting the Pelosi Party line but when the vote is certified he may be ousted. The state Board of Elections indicated that "...all ballots will be counted, and if the result changes, Owens will have to be removed." Concession speech or not, if the voters in the 23rd District elected Doug Hoffman and not Bill Owens, then Hoffman will be the Representative.

(Excerpt) Read more at gouverneurtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hoffman; military; ny23; obama
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Doug Hoffman's FB response:

"Many are asking about the counting of the absentee ballots. We'll keep you posted as the story develops."

WIN, DOUG, WIN! Wouldn't that be a kick in San Fran Gran Nan's pants, LOL!
1 posted on 11/13/2009 9:34:20 AM PST by pillut48
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To: pillut48

Frankin did it. Why not Hoffman?


2 posted on 11/13/2009 9:36:17 AM PST by duckman (My Grandma Isn't Shovel Ready!)
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To: pillut48

Would that invalidate his Pelosicare vote? Does Hoffman get to recast a vote?


3 posted on 11/13/2009 9:37:45 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: domenad

That’s the question I’m interested in - I read here yesterday that the vote already cast would hold. I’d make a challenge to that vote my first order of business....


4 posted on 11/13/2009 9:39:17 AM PST by SueRae
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To: pillut48

My hope is that even if he doesn’t eventually pull it out, he gets it close enough that he legitimately claim grounds for a recount and maybe even legal challnges if there are grounds. In the meantime, Owens would not be voting in the House.


5 posted on 11/13/2009 9:40:29 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: pillut48

I’m just curious if this is overturned and Hoffman is sworn in if Nazi Pelosi will still come out and say “I feel we won.”

My disgust with Democrats grows by leaps and bounds. We are not countrymen with them anymore.

Where is the common ground between being able to pay a doctor out of our own pocket if we choose to do so and you’ll go to jail if you don’t have a policy? How do you even come to a compromise between the two positions?


6 posted on 11/13/2009 9:40:29 AM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: domenad
"Would that invalidate his Pelosicare vote? Does Hoffman get to recast a vote?"

No and no. What's worse, there's no guarantee that Hoffman, even if certified the actual winner, would replace Owens. It's complicated, but it essentially comes down to a simple majority vote on the House floor. IOW, the Dems would have to vote to remove Owens and replace him with Hoffman.

7 posted on 11/13/2009 9:41:29 AM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: pillut48

Anyone notice that bad counting seem to favor the democrats.
Is it too much to assume there are some corrupt election staffs who deliberately undercount republican votes


8 posted on 11/13/2009 9:41:50 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: domenad

Oh, if Doug officially wins the election it will open a whole can of worms. Will Nancy seat him in the House? Will he get to change Owens’ vote to a “Nay” (wouldn’t change results, but it would close the narrow difference to 216-220—that’s supposed to be a mandate, Pelosi, that ALL of America wants Obamacare??)—we’ll see! I’m praying that there’s no MORE shenanigans while the rest of the votes are being counted! Are the county officials in NY23 trustworthy? Sounds like they might be, or this wouldn’t have been brought up in the first place, would it?


9 posted on 11/13/2009 9:43:11 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: pillut48
Don't get your hopes up, everyone.

Even if Hoffman ends up with more votes, Owens will ask for a recount.

If the vote is close, the dems will cheat, and the dems will win. It's what they do.

10 posted on 11/13/2009 9:45:55 AM PST by Washi
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To: Washi

WHY does it take WEEKS to count 10,000 votes????????//


11 posted on 11/13/2009 9:47:47 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: pillut48

Many of those absentee ballots may go for Scazzafava (sp?). Her name was still on the ballot when these absentee ballots were mailed out. It probably won’t change the outcome.


12 posted on 11/13/2009 9:49:22 AM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: 4rcane
"Is it too much to assume there are some corrupt election staffs who deliberately undercount republican votes"

The dems are only following their past leaders:

"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."
Joseph Stalin

13 posted on 11/13/2009 9:53:40 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: pillut48
While Mr. Hoffman feels that deliberately contesting the results of the election to prevent Owens' deciding vote in the Health Care bill would "not have been very sportsmanlike," and that he, personally, would not like to see a politician manipulate events in that manner,You and others seem to like this guy, so what's your take on that comment? While I'd like the ObamaCare vote dismissed, I do wonder why he's so wimpy about it.
14 posted on 11/13/2009 9:53:50 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: murron
Many of those absentee ballots may go for Scazzafava (sp?). Her name was still on the ballot when these absentee ballots were mailed out. It probably won’t change the outcome.

And back in the day people like Newt were telling everyone that they had to suck it up and vote for the liberal. Scratch that, he said liberal republican. Somehow there is a difference.

15 posted on 11/13/2009 9:54:55 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: bgill

Not ‘wimpy’—Doug had no reason NOT to believe what the commissioners were telling him about vote counts the night of the election...how would it look if he HAD protested and argued when he was told 93% of the vote was in and in Owen’s favor?

I think he did the dignified thing, not the wimpy thing. In hindsight, now that some shenanigans have been outed, we’ll see how he responds to all of this.

My money’s still on Doug!


16 posted on 11/13/2009 9:58:04 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Washi

Why don’t we learn to do the same thing.


17 posted on 11/13/2009 9:58:45 AM PST by tayper (Granny told me, Saying it don't make it so)
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To: pillut48

It passed 220-215. the change would be to 219-216. its not the effect of that small change however. it would give the dems nothing to hang their hat on from the recent elections and make it more difficult for dem leadership to twist arms and get the votes.
Was only 5800 uncounted absentee ballots last i read so chances are very very slim since Dede was still a candidate when they were mailed in.
Were Hoffman to somehow have the votes Pelosi will attempt to deny him his seat. This will work short term but backfire when Hoffman (hopefully) runs again next Nov. and the people express their displeasure at having their choice negated by the botox witch.


18 posted on 11/13/2009 9:58:49 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: Ann Archy

IIRC, they have to wait for as many absentee ballots to be delivered and they have to make sure they were posted by November 2nd. Depending on how far away the ballots had to come (military members are all over the world) I can see why it would take a few extra weeks to finish the counting.


19 posted on 11/13/2009 9:59:53 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: duckman

“Frankin did it. Why not Hoffman?”

First of all, Franken didn’t do it. ACORN and SEIU scum, cheats and thugs did it at the behest of the Democrats. Does anyone believe ACORN or SEIU would be assisting Hoffman in a recount? Dream on then wake up in the real world if you do.


20 posted on 11/13/2009 9:59:55 AM PST by historyrepeatz
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