Posted on 11/12/2009 11:44:49 AM PST by lbryce
Military prosecutors have charged Maj. Nadil Malik Hasan with 13 counts of premeditated murder in last week’s shooting rampage at Fort Hood, Tex., a spokesman for the Army criminal investigation division said Thursday.
Major Hasan, 39, an Army psychiatrist, is accused of opening fire with two handguns in a Soldier Medical Readiness Center, where troops receive medical attention before being deployed or after returning from overseas.
Of the 13 people who were killed, , four were officers, 8 were enlisted soldiers and one was a civilian. Major Hasan was eventually subdued by civilian police.
The 13 charges against Major Hasan are “initial charges,” said the Army spokesman, Chris Grey, “and additional charges may be preferred in the future, subject to the ongoing criminal investigation.”
“It is important to remember that the preferral of charges is the first step in the court-martial process,” Mr. Grey said, “and that a charge is merely an accusation. The accused is presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty.”
Col. John P. Galligan, a retired Army officer, who is representing Major Hasan, has questioned whether the suspect will be able to get a fair trial at Fort Hood.
For now, Mr. Grey added, “Major Hasan is currently under pretrial restriction while receiving medical care.”
Major Hasan is reported to be in stable condition in an Army Hospital in San Antonio, where he is recovering from four gunshot wounds.
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Right now, one of “the boys from NYU” (as Savage likes to call them)is getting on a plane with attache case in hand, ready to defend the “victim” who had a “mental breakdown”.
“Perhaps that is so ... but “treason” makes a statement and enforces the standard” What statement? What standard? The proper roll of prosecution is the easiest road to the maximum punishment.
His likely defense will be some sort of incapacity based on being brainwashed into Muslim extremism. He’ll likely make your points to try to save his life. There’s no necessity to make motive a necessary element.
Although a Court Martial will take time and he will be found Guilty the POTUS has to sign the Death Warrant. Our job is to make sure the current POTUS is not in the White House at that time.
I hope the Court Martial is finalized after 01/22/2013!
Where is the charge for the 14th victim???
Waddya mean?
He did everything but stand down at the main gate at Fort Hood with sign, "Death to American infidel dogs", while people drove by winking and nodding...As the FBI was reading his emails to al qaeda recuriters....
Of course you're right, it wouldn't be culturally or politically correct to charge a Muslim terrorist with treason or terrorism.
They have the option. It did not take them very long to put Timothy McVeigh down. What less than a year. We will see how politically correct they are with this one.
You ask an EXCELLENT question, “why not treason?”
Does nurder trump treason? I would think so, using
the Uniform Code of Military Justice or not.
There are REALLY sticky judicial questions here, that
so far, NO ONE to my knowledge has brought up, yet are
infinitely more important than the obvious ones about his
guilt and what his ‘appropriate’ punishment could or should be. Ever see the movie or read the book “The Execution of Private Slovik?” He was executed for DESERTION!
We’ve certainly come ‘a long way, baby’, since then.
How the Hasan case will be eventually ‘adjudicated’ is going to prove to be one of the most twisted and tortured processes any of us will ever witness. A good question, for openers, would be, prior to this, how many mass murderers
have been convicted of multiple murder charges, and have NOT eventually been executed? How long were they allowed to languish on Death Row? I don’t know the answers to those questions, but however long they were allowed to live, courtesy of appeals, you can expect Hasan to break the record. There is too much political hay to be made by the apologists, and this thing will NEVER result in this Islamic Jihadist being executed post haste, they way he should be. No, the PC backtracking and storytelling narratives that started IMMEDIATELY should have given us all a clue what to expect. The groundwork was being laid with great and sudden and almost instinctual logic, that we cannot see this as an Islamist thing, and this directive came from sources as diverse as Army Chief of Staff Casey to Chris Matthews. It flooded us from every direction imaginable, and caused tremendous outrage among those,especially military men like Ralph Peters,Alan West,
Ollie North and others, who just shake their head over the posture of self-defeating PC cravenness they see on display. 8 YEARS AFTER 9-11!! Underlying ALL of the pathetic CYA spinning, and all the halfassed Leftist PC rationalizations for Hasan’s Jihad (”pre-Traumatic Stress Syndrome??) is the understanding that we’d better not see this event for what it is, an act of terrorism. We’d better not dispatch Hasan with the same quick justice we did Timothy McVeigh, for example. No, to do that would begin a whole new round of Global Jihad and that might spiral out of control and we’d be in line for a new 9-11. Or something far worse than 9-11. That WILL happen if Hasan gets his due as a mass murderer. My guess is that, ludicrous as it is, his act of mass murder will only get him life imprisonment. Hasan’s punishment , if and when it ever comes, will be the most protracted, lawyer-laden thing we’ve ever witnessed. He is the new Hero to millions of Radical Islamists, bin Laden reborn, to be celebrated all the more since he lived in the very belly of the beast even more blatantly than the 9-11 hijackers. What happens to Hasan will be the most carefully considered ‘decision’ yet to be made in American Jurisprudence.
If your point is that he is guilty of both murder and treason, I’d agree. He is also a terrorist. To me murder is the easier to prove. Charging and proving treason is important when the act that constitutes the treason carries a much less severe punishment than treason. That is not the case here.
As to the court of public opinion, I charge him with all 3 and those that disagree with aiding and abetting.
How about Conspiracy to commit treason?
Hmm?
Am I too politically incorrect by asking these questions?
Only because our justice system has become a joke...Instead of just convicting him for treason, murder, and terrorism, taking him out and shooting him with no fanfare, the justice system will turn this into a 3 ring circus.
Tell ya what, ask the victims family members what they want done, and you'll get your answer on what should be done.
14 human beings were murdered by MAJ Mohammed or whatever the hell his name is.
Not 13.
14.
Perhaps I should send this image to the FBI and other assorted idiots conducting the "investigation."
Yeah, if he claims to be a nutball.
What if he stands in court and says, "Death to American infidel dogs" for the martyr vote?
“What if he stands in court and says, “Death to American infidel dogs” for the martyr vote?”
Then he proves he’s both a traitor and a terrorist without the necessity of a trial. The jury can then find him guilty of murder and have him executed.
Ya see, this is where we disagree...I think he's going to do what I suggested he might, and come off as the spokesperson for the Muslim fanatics, taking his time to tell the world about alleged American atrocities, etc, etc.
Oh, hey, um.....did you not receive the memo? Unborn 'fetuses' are apparently not alive, therefore it's not murder. Funny that I was at the doctor with my wife just last week and heard my unborn child's heartbeat.....I would have thought that would have constituted it being alive, but hey, that's just me. /sarc, as if I needed to.
Can they use one of the charges to only give him bread and water intravenously for 30 days? (for inquiring minds)
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