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Profiler: Fort Hood suspect a loner (CNN officially declares shooter "NOT a terrorist")
cnn ^ | 11/11/2009 | Drew Griffin, Elaine Quijano, Carol Cratty and Brian Todd

Posted on 11/12/2009 3:34:11 AM PST by tobyhill

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i think they define terrorist and someone who belongs to a official terrorist group


21 posted on 11/12/2009 3:56:01 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: tobyhill

PC will be our downfall.


22 posted on 11/12/2009 3:57:28 AM PST by hadaclueonce ("Endeavor to persevere.")
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To: tobyhill

And yet, because we read and post here on this forum, Napolitano considers all of us to be terrorists. And, our children are also a risk to society. And, our dogs are a problem too. Our wives are all radicals. Even my garbage can will hurt you. How many more lies can we all endure before this mess ends?


23 posted on 11/12/2009 3:58:58 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: tobyhill
... fits the profile of a mass murderer better than that of a terrorist.

What's that expression ... "A distinction without a difference"?

24 posted on 11/12/2009 3:59:31 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Hmmm...

Not profiling, but it kind of reminds me of this guy:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2352751/posts?page=3#3

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2352751/posts?page=4#4


25 posted on 11/12/2009 4:02:23 AM PST by Cindy
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To: tobyhill

Pat Brown may know how to profile mass murderers, but can she profile terrorists?


26 posted on 11/12/2009 4:02:32 AM PST by PghBaldy (James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed Martin Luther King Jr.)
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To: tobyhill
I bet he never tried match.com.

No. But as most loney guys do, he called al Qaeda for advice.
27 posted on 11/12/2009 4:07:10 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: tobyhill

“red flags”
Here’s a red flag. Someone belongs to a group that proclaims its hatred for Christians and Jews and tells its members to kill them. Someone wears the official uniform of the group. Someone honors and revers the official hatebook of the group. Someone goes to weekly Friday hate meetings to learn more reasons why he should hate Christians and Jews.
Those are red flags. Anyone who raises those red flags needs to be deported.


28 posted on 11/12/2009 4:07:50 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: 4rcane
i think they define terrorist and someone who belongs to a official terrorist group

And carries a "Terrorists R Us" ID card.

29 posted on 11/12/2009 4:12:39 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: tobyhill

CNN, striving to drive away the last few dozen viewers and become invisible.


30 posted on 11/12/2009 4:18:00 AM PST by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: tobyhill
Ok, that's right...
31 posted on 11/12/2009 4:23:31 AM PST by never4get (We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid)
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*making no attempt to hide his religion or conservative beliefs, the source said.*

Notice the use of the word “conservative”!!!!

Definitely PERJORATIVE. It’s not ‘conservative religious’ beliefs....this guy was a ‘CONSERVATIVE’.

How ya like them apples?


32 posted on 11/12/2009 4:24:25 AM PST by Dudoight
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Well, I’m still not profiling, but this is interesting:

SNIPPET - QUOTE:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1863144/posts

Most suicide bombers are Muslim
www.psychologytoday.com ^ | 06/22/2007 | Alan S. Miller Ph.D., Satoshi Kanazawa Ph.D.
Posted on July 9, 2007 11:55:10 AM PDT by citizenmike

(From an article titled:Ten Politically Incorrect Truths About Human Nature)

Most suicide bombers are Muslim

Suicide missions are not always religiously motivated, but according to Oxford University sociologist Diego Gambetta, editor of Making Sense of Suicide Missions, when religion is involved, the attackers are always Muslim. Why? The surprising answer is that Muslim suicide bombing has nothing to do with Islam or the Quran (except for two lines). It has a lot to do with sex, or, in this case, the absence of sex.

(Excerpt) Read more at psychologytoday.com ...


33 posted on 11/12/2009 4:26:18 AM PST by Cindy
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"A lot of people are jumping to the conclusion because this man spouted violent Islamic ideology that this is a terrorist attack," criminologist Pat Brown said. Brown, who profiles killers, said Hasan's profile is that of a loner. "He was simply a lone guy who had issues, problems, psychopathic behaviors that escalated to the point where he wanted to get back at society, and he took it out on his workmates like most of them do," he said.

Okay. So that means Eric Robert Rudolph (Olympic bomber)
Theodore John Kaczynski(Unibomber)
Scott Roeder (shot abortion doctor)
Eric Robert Rudolph (Holocaust Museum shooter)

Were NOT terroists either....
34 posted on 11/12/2009 4:30:00 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar is the Muslim terrorist who drove an SUV--in the name of Allah, and in the footsteps of Mohammad Atta--into the Student Pit at UNC-Chapel Hill in 1996.

CNN senior producer Henry Schuster struggled with the definition of terrorism at that time.

Terror in the 'Pit'

Is it terrorism when a young man -- police say by his own admission -- deliberately drives his vehicle into a crowd of students with the alleged intent of killing them? Police say the young man said he wanted to "avenge the deaths of Muslims around the world."

start quotePeople who fight in the cause of Allah are not guilty if and when they have no intention of killing more persons among their enemies than their enemies have killed among the believers.end quote
-- Mohammad Reza Taheri-azar, accused of attempted murder

That's what Mohammad Reza Taheri-azar was accused of doing on March 3, in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. Nine students were injured.

Taheri-azar, a native of Iran, outlined his thinking in a series of letters sent from jail to the University of North Carolina's student newspaper, The Daily Tar Heel.

The paper says, in one letter, Taheri-azar wrote, "I was aiming to follow in the footsteps of one of my role models, Mohammad Atta, one of the 9/11/01 hijackers, who obtained a doctorate degree." This was an apparent reference to Taheri-azar's intention to pursue a psychology degree.

That was before he allegedly drove a Jeep into the crowd of students the afternoon of March 3, plowing through a pedestrian area on the Chapel Hill campus known as the Pit.

Police say Taheri-azar admits the attack but, according to one letter, he said he is not guilty of a crime because "people who fight in the cause of Allah are not guilty if and when they have no intention of killing more persons among their enemies than their enemies have killed among the believers."

This column isn't about his guilt or innocence, but whether what he might have done can be considered terrorism (Taheri-azar is facing attempted murder charges in North Carolina state court).

According to the NCTC definition, it would seem so (again, if he is convicted). His alleged reason and planning goes to the notion of "premeditated politically motivated violence."

But I got a different take from Dr. Marc Sageman, a forensic psychiatrist and the author of "Understanding Terror Networks," a groundbreaking book that examined why young men joined al Qaeda and associated terror networks.

Sageman studied Taheri-azar's letters at my request. He's done this sort of thing as an expert witness hundreds of times, except he usually has access to the patient.

Sageman believes, from what he's read, the young man was convinced of what he was doing and why he did it. The real issue, in Sageman's professional opinion, is Taheri-azar's mental condition. To Sageman, the detached tone of the letters makes Taheri-azar seem "decontextualized."

He says those who act alone tend to have more mental disorders than those who act in groups, where there is some premium on being able to have social interaction.

Sageman stops short of calling the Chapel Hill attack an act of terrorism, but then offers his own definition of the term: "terrorism is propagated by the deed and is designed to inspire young people to join the movement."

Which leaves another vexing question when defining terrorism -- if a person carries out what he believes to be an act of terrorism/political violence and he is found mentally unstable, does that make it terrorism?--CNN.com- What is terrorism?

Footnote: Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar was convicted and sentenced to 26 years in prison via a plea bargain.

35 posted on 11/12/2009 4:33:26 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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And they wonder why people aren’t watching anymore.


36 posted on 11/12/2009 4:34:20 AM PST by AdvisorB (Obamatude could be defined by Blago as something tangible, but not quite as tangible as JJJ's offer.)
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Radical Islam is an insane murder cult; moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.

And the MSM is in charge of making excuses for the jihadis.

37 posted on 11/12/2009 4:37:22 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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I’m still wondering how he got promoted in May when they had all this wealth of info?

It's unfortunately pretty much automatic. He owed at least 10 years for his training (USUHS 7, residency 3). It's up or out, if he doesn't get promoted, it's mandatory separation within 90 days if passed over a second time. Also they have QUOTAS for minority officers. If this a##hat had a pulse, he was going to make Lt Colonel.
38 posted on 11/12/2009 4:40:44 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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CORRECTION:

James von Brunn is the Holocaust Museum shooter.


39 posted on 11/12/2009 4:43:50 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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“A lot of people are jumping to the conclusion because this man spouted violent Islamic ideology that this is a terrorist attack,” criminologist Pat Brown said.
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The intellectual dishonesty of the Left is mind-boggling, and infuriating.


40 posted on 11/12/2009 4:45:56 AM PST by Canedawg (FUBO)
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