[Wpin]

She states there is no sex on the tape, you say she is masturbating...did you see the video? Were you there? I call you stupid because you have yet to answer the simple question, yet you continue to bad mouth this young lady. I don’t think you know what is on the video, do you?

[OCCASparky]

No sex as in no intercourse. The report had her masturbating. No, I did not see the tape, and given the fact it's of a 17-year old, nor do I wish to. I'm not "bad mouthing" her. She made a mistake, yet you and she still try to play it down. I think you're just upset because she isn't as pure as the driven snow, as you would wish her to be.

Part of being a "conservative" means taking personal responsibility for one's actions. What she's doing is spin. I'm not afraid to call out my own, why are you?

[OCCASparky]

But to expand...do I think it’s fair what they are doing to this woman? Absolutely not. It’s a telling sign of just how low some people will go to silence a person with another point of view. HOWEVER...if she just fesses up and comes TOTALLY clean instead of placing conditions on what she was doing, it would go a long way to making this whole sordid affair go away. Kind of Clintonesque, what she’s doing, by saying it “wasn’t sex”. Maybe not intercourse, but I’ll bet your paycheck it was of a sexual NATURE. Care to take that bet?