The Ft. Hood Killer - Guilty But Not Evil

Psychology Today ^ | November 7, 2009 | Mark Goulston

[potlatch]

[I would limit &/or ban media in all combat theaters or countries where we have troops fighting]

Agreed, our troops shouldn’t have to worry about looking out for the media. Lol, this had nothing to do with my comment, was wondering what I said!

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

88 Year old von Brunn started shooting his rifle in the Holocaust Museum on Wednesday, June 10th. He killed Stephen Tyrone Johns, a guard at the Museum.

Von Brunn also utilized the Internet to spread his antisemitic and Holocaust denial drivel.

THE NEXT DAY, June 11 the FBI called the shooting an act of domestic terrorism. THE NEXT DAY.

Hasan gets he was harassed. He was pre-stressed, he rolled over and smothered his parakeet once when he was taking a nap (according to his grandfather). Hasan achieved instant victimhood and those mean old people who stole his bumper sticker or called him camel-jockey get the blame.

It turns my stomach.

[Red Boots]

And perhaps that was the mission that Major Hasan was on and that he fulfilled with his bloody massacre. Because lets face it, he may have killed and traumatized many others, but he avoided the re-traumatization that being deployed might have caused.

But he was never tramutized in the first place.And, he wasn't exactly avioding trauma either, he was causing it. Avoiding it means avoiding it, not planning it, and methodically carrying it out.

[ColdWater]

You can kid yourself and tell yourself that you're OK. But I hope that deep down you realize that you aren't,

I am ok and I resent the insinuation that I am a bad person.

[mort56]

Makes sense to me. Only white middle aged men who are Christian can actually be termed evil in today’s America. For the rest of you, have at it.

[potlatch]

“Geeeeez .. that should have been a humungus clue!
I’m sorry to say PC has kept people from confronting evil.”

Lol, hugh clue indeed. Sometimes I wonder if our government WANTS to be under muslim rule. Even Hillary has Huma.

[maine-iac7]

Sounds like you are in the same mindframe as the author of this psychobabble.

You can kid yourself and tell yourself that you're OK. But I hope that deep down you realize that you aren't, that there is a God and you are not Him. The prideful person who won't admit to needing help is the one who needs help the most of all.

Holy cow! Following your exchange with coldWater -

YOU are scary...

Because coldWater doesn't consider him/herself as having been BORN bad nor bad now, THEY are psychotic?

And you pontificate that you hope they 'realize' that they are 'not God."

Wow. You presume to speak for God and what you say it the last word.

Have you read the part about "Ye shall not judge"?

there are many people who call themselves Christian, but are far from Christian in their actions."By their fruits ye shall know them..."

and BTW, I also believe that those tiny little miracles, called babies, come into the world innocent, straight from God. God does not, I believe, create 'bad' things.

[potlatch]

[Texas has jurisdiction over these crimes - and Texas don’t brook murderers -]

I am a Texan and I posted about that the other day. Said it was great that Texas has the death penalty, without thinking about it happening on Military ground. Had several post back that it would be under Military rule.

[Blue Collar Christian]

Oh, well, then, we should put him up at the Carlton in the penthouse with full room service, big screen, DSL, hot and cold running...Well, it is Bush’s fault, isn’t it?

[metalcor]

How many psychiatrists with the rank of major are going on combat missions? Isn’t that what his excuse is, according to this professional? After hearing horror stories of combat, he feared going into combat himself?

[maine-iac7]

[Trial defense experts lining up now ] Yes, it will be long and drawn out and won’t go the way we wish it would.

Don't worry to much about this - see my post # 78

(hint: Don't mess with Texas.)

[adorno]

Not from what I’ve seen .. there is a lot of video of Mosque leaders preaching hateful stuff .. I would hardly call that “sweeten the lessons”.

I agree with you.

But, to the radical Muslims, the radical teachings from the Mosques may seem very sweet to them. Evil can be rationalized and to most of the radicals, the rationalization takes away any misgivings they may have had. That's why you get many of them justifying their actions by pretending to believe they'll get 72 virgins after jihad, and many of them will try to deny the wrongfulness of their suicide missions by shouting "Allahu Akbar".

[Interesting Times]

No one defeats evil who is too confused, sophisticated or cowardly to apply its proper name.

[cherry]

I don't care if he is evil, stupid, insane,fanatical, mistaken,diabetic,homosexual,deprived,fat,happy, or sassy....

we can not allow innocent people to be subject to whatever excuse of the day is batted about...

they must be stopped.....they must be taken out of society....

[ColdWater]

BTW, I also believe that those tiny little miracles, called babies, come into the world innocent, straight from God.

I can't conceive how anyone would think anything else if they have held a newborn baby.

[cherry]

"The measure of a civilization is how it treats those who have hurt it."

"hurt it"???...."hurt it"???..."HURT IT"?????

now gunning down 13 people and wounding dozens more is a "hurt"????

[FTJM]

He is a bad person. He is an evil person. He is a terrorist. He is guilty.

[devolve]

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The pansy states and SCOTUS should not have any say on terminating Hasan III

Whoops!)

[j_tull]

you’d be as curious as I was and am to understand how and why and when Major Hasan did what he did
..because he is a f*cking Moslem terrorist
and what if anything we can learn to prevent this from ever happening again. .. throw all the f*cking Moslem terrorists out of the US military.

[Tzimisce]

...you can’t get PSTD without BEING IN COMBAT FIRST.