The Ft. Hood Killer - Guilty But Not Evil

Psychology Today ^ | November 7, 2009 | Mark Goulston

[popdonnelly]

Why is Hasan the benificiary of all this uninformed and unsupported psychoanalysis? Did we have all this sympathetic shrink talk concerning David Berkowitz? Timothy McVeigh? All this shows is the ingrained prejudices of our elitist society.

[ilgipper]

It has been said many times this week and through the past years. Political correctness is going to be the death of America.

[myknowledge]

Nidal Malik Hasan is GUILTY and EVIL to the core of Islam.

[maine-iac7]

I submit that You, Mr Goulston, are a victim of having spent too much time with deranged patients and are, therefore, suffering from second hand derangement. (That, plus pugging your upcoming book. So transparent)

You write: "Major Hasan to first hand have to go into combat and witness and even support Americans killing Muslims was just too much" ... Post Traumatic Stress Disorder for Dummies”) is the “fear of re-traumatization” and their efforts at any and all costs to avoid it often results in the symptoms they develop.

HOw could fear 're-traumatization'? He hadn't been in combat/tramatized in the first place.

Whether to laugh or to - puke. That is the question.

Earth to pschobabalist: the MAJOR is a psychiatrist. He would not be in combat. He would not be patrolling the roads or hills - he would not be shot at nor have to shoot at his real brothers, the Cretins.

However, as a trained and primed jihardist, he could not reconcile his going to Afghanistan or Iraq where he would be among the enemy who was fighting his muzslime brothers.

Years past, he attended the same mosque, at the same time, as some of the 9/11 bombers - and under the same imam. (Oh, I forgot, we're not to connect any dots on this angle.)

He gave plenty of evidence in the past of his hatred for us infidels and love of islam. PC stopped him form being summarily dismissed from the service, as any such soldier who expressed anti-American sentiments would have been before PC. All the signs were there - provided by Hasan himself.

He was a sleeper, primed and waiting for his orders. That day, that very afternoon, he had a visitor to his apartment: a man with long hair and mustache, dressed in Arab garb. His orders were delivered?

In the meantime, Mr. psychobabblist, where is your sympathy for those lying in hospitals after his "Allah Akbar!" rampage? I didn't catch you mentioning that he started his rampage by jumping on a desk and yelling "Allah Akbar!" (Maybe I missed it? That IS a pretty good clue as to what was really in his mind.)

What about some sympathy for the brave lady cop who nearly died on the sidewalk from massive loss of blood and is now, as doctors say, = well, they say they are fighting to keep her from living the rest of her life in a wheelchair.

What about some kind words for her and her incredible bravery and the trauma she went through and that she will live with the rest of her life. No, I guess you have no sympathy for her or the other victims - who did not create the circumstances that came crashing down on them. Your sympathy got all used up for the JIHARD TERRORIST. (And they are crazy - but not because they may have had a unhappy childhood or any of the rest of your nonsense. Ever hear of the "Age of Responsibility."

\ You, Mr Psychobabblist, are an abomination. Maybe you should see a shrink.

[popdonnelly]

“The measure of a civilization is how it treats those who have hurt it.”

Yes, if it doesn’t effectively punish the people who hurt it, then it won’t be a civilization for long.

The people who rant about the evils of “Wall Street” are they same people who want us to make nicey with the Major Hasan’s of the World.

[mojitojoe]

If you are someone who disagrees with that, then I would suggest you stop reading now.
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I stopped reading right there as instructed. Bye

[devolve]

Trial defense experts lining up now

[potlatch]

[Mr Hasan should be put to death according to the Koran]

Most of us might agree with that, but we now live in a world where newspapers and media hesitate to even mention a muslim name in relation to a killing.

I don’t know how we overcome political correctness other than what we are already doing - discussing it and getting out all the pertinent facts we can.

[Liberty1970]

I don't consider myself 'bad'. Sorry you have to feel that way about yourself and others.

Sounds like you are in the same mindframe as the author of this psychobabble.

You can kid yourself and tell yourself that you're OK. But I hope that deep down you realize that you aren't, that there is a God and you are not Him. The prideful person who won't admit to needing help is the one who needs help the most of all.

[Sir Gawain]

Psychobabble.

[mojitojoe]

Let me tell that stupid shrink one thing, any Muzzie comes near my property or on it, he does so at his own risk.

[potlatch]

Lol, I scrolled on this thread and saw your post before the pager lit up and pinged! Was thinking, “how did I miss this one”!

[Trial defense experts lining up now ]
Yes, it will be long and drawn out and won’t go the way we wish it would.

[Texas Eagle]

We can’t know for sure, but I believe that the threat of deployment of Major Hasan to first hand have to go into combat and witness and even support Americans killing Muslims was just too much.

Yo, Dr. Freud, did somebody FORCE Hasan to join the military?

[Texas Eagle]

The FBI better keep an eye on this Ghoulston guy.

Birds of a feather.

[piytar]

The inability to see true evil when it stares you in the face is a sure sign of utter moral bankruptcy, in other words evil.

[CyberAnt]

Not from what I’ve seen .. there is a lot of video of Mosque leaders preaching hateful stuff .. I would hardly call that “sweeten the lessons”.

[CyberAnt]

Geeeeez .. that should have been a humungus clue!

I’m sorry to say PC has kept people from confronting evil.

[maine-iac7]

Fortunately, what happens to this Cretin is not just in the hands of Washington.

I believe one of those killed was a civilian - and the lady cop is a civilian.

Texas has jurisdiction over these crimes - and Texas don't brook murderers -

It will be interesting how the obummer will try to prevent his spiritual brother from meeting Texas justice.

[devolve]

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Recall when journalists were being killed or captured in Afghanistan?
They were thrilled with a tough US military then

I would limit &/or ban media in all combat theaters or countries where we have troops fighting

Or tell Obama and Congress to go fight our enemies themselves

[Gene Eric]

>> Goulston: "too many soldiers telling tales of killing Muslims (who he increasingly felt a kinship too) and their families"

Too many US soldiers have died because of the ROE implemented to minimize loss of innocent life - Muslim life.

Goulston, the practicing psychiatrist and psychotherapis, fails to point this out - an omission.

How many Muslim school children have US soldiers sheltered?
How many Muslim women have been provided the means to vote?
How many Muslim police officers, infantry, and officials have been trained and protected by US soldiers?
How much time and sacrifice has been given by the US military to rebuild infrastructure and provide reassurance to Muslims overseas?

Does Goulston, the practicing psychiatrist and psychotherapis, question the personal cost of separation the US soldiers and their families endure while providing aid and resources to Muslims overseas?

Does Goulston, the practicing psychiatrist and psychotherapis, question with which Muslim quarter Hasan decided to align himself?

Did Hasan ever thank the US soldiers for the sacrifice they made while fighting along side the Muslims with which he "felt a kinship to"? Or did Hasan feel a kinship to the radical Muslims the military was fighting against?