Posted on 11/08/2009 5:26:16 AM PST by LS
A new myth has arisen in the wake of last night's vote that a handful of "blue dog" Democrats from red districts were really in a position to stop Obamacare.
More than TWO MONTHS ago, I wrote a piece here called "What if they don't care?" and reposted here as "Grim Thought" (http://www.patriotshistoryusa.com/blog/grim-thought/)
Sadly, I was right. They didn't care. The entire choreography from August until last night was based on two tactical approaches: 1) "soften" the language just enough to get it by the public (NOT some "blue dogs") so that it did not appear as horrible as it is. This was 100% successful, as the AMA and AARPies all came on board; and 2) figure out which of the blue dogs would have to eat the bullet. It was only a numbers game. There were about 40-45 in really endangered positions, and thus at worst, only 5-10 would really have to be bribed or cajoled.
The final count was four, plus one idiot Republican (you can always find at least one fool on our side). The past two months have been about these two tactical maneuvers, and the last week was about figuring out which of some 45 endangered "blue dogs" would fall on their sword.
NONE of them are "heroes," because those who "voted against" Obamacare were merely released by Pelosi to do so---but they ALL voted for Pelosi and the Dem leadership to do what they did. In my eyes, they are no different than the Nationalist Party in Germany in 1932, which did not "vote" for Hitler, but didn't oppose him.
As for the five? They have been promised an all-out Dem blitz in the next election, and should they lose their seats, they have been promised gubment jobs in the administration. To quote Abe Karitz in the film "Tucker: The Man and His Dream," "You never had a chance."
Newsmax.com
McCaughey: Pelosi Bill’s Radical Agenda Revealed
Saturday, November 7, 2009 1:00 PM
The healthcare reform plan being pushed by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Barack Obama and passed by the House on Saturday illustrates the Democrats’ radical agenda, says former New York Lt. Gov. Betsy McCaughey.
In an op-ed article appearing Saturday on The Wall Street Journal’s Web site, McCaughey reveals shocking details of the 1,990-page bill.
Some of the more alarming aspects of the bill, according to McCaughey: .............
Newsmax.com
‘Blue Dogs’ are Butt Pups.
The AARP stands to make a fortune:
AARP: Reform advocate and insurance salesman
"..GOP lawmakers point to AARP's thriving business in marketing branded Medigap policies, which provide supplemental coverage for standard Medicare plans available to the elderly. Democratic proposals to slash reimbursements for another program, called Medicare Advantage, are widely expected to drive up demand for private Medigap policies like the ones offered by AARP, according to health-care experts, legislative aides and documents..."
ROFL - Now that is a good one. Even though, I’ll have to go repent while at Church in a bit.
Yeah, I just got this.
It’s just the Democrat show vote tradition at work.
Don’t be stupid; this was going to happen from the day of last year’s election. Until some public excommunications start and the Catholic Church gets its balls to miraculously return, this is what you’ll get; the coscious decision to change mankind from a free man to a Metropolis style society of workers and elites, with the elites running life from conception to consumption.
I prefer to call it what it really is-a flat out lie.
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: If they make a mistake, I dont want them punished with a baby.
Desi Arnaz laugh “HA. . . HA . . . HA . . . Ohhh, Lucy!”
LS:
I’ve been following “Doctor/Doctor” all last night and this morning. There’s a list of Blue Dogs who voted NO, but I haven’t seen a list of the Lap Dogs who voted YES. I haven’t found a list of Yes’s anywhere.
We’ll know soon enough. But I’m anxious to know who the ones are who will be easiest to take down next year. Will we even have to spend money in their districts? Not much, I would think.
The AARP stands to make a fortune:
AARP: Reform advocate and insurance salesman
"..GOP lawmakers point to AARP's thriving business in marketing branded Medigap policies, which provide supplemental coverage for standard Medicare plans available to the elderly. Democratic proposals to slash reimbursements for another program, called Medicare Advantage, are widely expected to drive up demand for private Medigap policies like the ones offered by AARP, according to health-care experts, legislative aides and documents..."
Good - and sobering - points. I guess my husband and I wasted our time in calling and e-mailing these so-called “principled” Blue Dogs last week, thinking we actually had a chance to sway them...
That's the heart of the problem. Back in the early days of the republic you had to be a property owner to vote. The theory was you had to have a stake in the outcome. Maybe that's too extreme but we should look at not allowing government workers or those on government assistance to vote. Yeah I know, never happen but the old adage that a republic survives only until people discover they can vote themselves goodies from the treasury was never demonstrated better than this travesty last night.
What the Pelosi Health-Care Bill Really Says by Betsy McCaughey
Yesterday we got a phone call from one our younger relatives, who is considering a new job offer.
He has a friend who is very successful with a current business has offered our younger relative a job in an industry that is the love of our younger relative.
He is currently employed and well treated/paid by a leader in another industry. They have full benefit coverage including outstanding health care benefits.
His new job will have no health benefits, he will get extra money/salary to pay for his health care. There is no way that the amount will cover the costs under Frau Pelosi’s fascist coverage.
This young man’s parents would fall under the ilk of so called conservative independents, who are more likely to blame Republicans when something like Pelosi Care gets rammed through. They voted for the change and are scared of what it really means. However, they still blame GW and republicans for what has happened to our economy.
I emailed this young man, Frau Pelosi’s plan yesterday and how she would mandate it to him if he trades jobs. Before this bill passed, he and his in denial parents refused to believe that Kind Hearted Frau Pelosi would require him to be insured and would fine him if he didn’t buy the mandated plan.
Yesterday, he refused to admit it, now post Frau Pelosi’s raping of middle class America, he believes that he will be in trouble if he doesn’t have the mandated insurance. So, he wants to have lunch to talk with us about what might happen to him if he changes jobs and maybe what will happen even if he doesn’t change.
Makes one wonder how many thousands or millions of young people are waking up re facing the brutality of Frau Pelosi’s mandated health plans.
Logically the “blue dog democrats” have no motivation to vote with the GOP. Eventhough they may be more conservative they face a threat within their own party and the less likely to get GOP crossover votes anyway.
I agree with the part that the feds will grow. Pretty much doesn't matter which party has the reins, neither party will abide by the constitution. And both parties are adept at fooling the rubes.
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