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Fort Hood shooting: inside story of how massacre on military base happened
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11/7/2009 | Philip Sherwell and Nick Allen

Posted on 11/07/2009 6:25:39 PM PST by 1066AD

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To: Flavius

Anyone who lives on base can have a personal firearm. If you live in the barracks, enlisted or officers quarters etc your gun is kept in an armory where you check it in and out similar to your military weapon. If you live in housing on base you can keep your personal weapon(s) with you.

As far as driving on or off base and bringing a weapon in it’s hit or miss. If you happen to be the one pulled over for an inspection with a weapon then you better have a good reason.


21 posted on 11/07/2009 7:00:43 PM PST by maddog55 (The enemy is domestic and it's the government.)
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To: Cicero

Note also that the London paper isn’t afraid to use the word “Islamic”, and in the 2nd paragraph to boot.


22 posted on 11/07/2009 7:01:22 PM PST by bigbob
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To: null and void

In all fairness to CNN, I did hear about the mysterious Muslim last night on Anderson Cooper.


23 posted on 11/07/2009 7:01:49 PM PST by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: 1066AD
That is some terrific writing. It's the best written article I have read in a long time, full of information, methodically laid out.

OMG I almost forgot, that's what a real journalist does.

24 posted on 11/07/2009 7:06:38 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: 1066AD

This account is probably similar to that Beslan school hostage situation from Sept. 2004.
I am afraid that this is the future of a coordinated attack in American cities, malls, schools, and many churches. I pray that I am wrong, but I am of course prepared in the event that I am caught in the middle.


25 posted on 11/07/2009 7:09:24 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: 1066AD
President Barack Obama uses his weekly radio address to attempt to rally the nation.

But not before the jackass gave a shout-out to one of his peeps.

Disgusting vermin.


26 posted on 11/07/2009 7:11:40 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Hope....Change...Food Stamps!)
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To: maddog55

Well what better reason would you want


27 posted on 11/07/2009 7:12:22 PM PST by Flavius
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To: 1066AD

Let me post this question?

Why was a pregnant person being deployed to a war zone? One of the dead or injured was pregnant from what I read.


28 posted on 11/07/2009 7:15:40 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: George from New England

George,

From what I understand she found out she was pregnant while deployed and had just returned home. She was in the center that day to change her status due to her pregnancy.


29 posted on 11/07/2009 7:17:09 PM PST by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: George from New England

She was returning from the war zone pregnant.

SZ


30 posted on 11/07/2009 7:17:26 PM PST by SZonian (Phillies Phan in SoCal (still laying low from the Doyers fans))
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To: JLS

I don’t need no stinking link. The facts speak for themselves.

Hasan was known to this administration. His actions and opinions had attracted the attention of those he worked with, who reported him to the FBI, Homeland Security, and to the Pentagon. And did they do anything? No. Major Hasan had worked on the transition team for Obama’s Presedential administration, so he was known to officials if not the President himself. He had received lousy scores duing his last performance review, but was promoted to Major anyway, an action Presidents are involved in.

Hasan planned an act of terrorism. He condemned our right to protect ourselves from our enemies, who are radical Islamists. He calmly targeted unarmed people, executing them BECAUSE they were not Muslim.

This White House frequently intervenes on the part of radical blacks and Muslims: if you haven’t been following that information there is nothing I’m going to do to help you.

WHO controls the DoD, Homeland Security, and the Justice Department? Cabinet Secretaries, answerable to only to POTUS.

Those Department Secretaries do what the President wants; they serve at his discretion.

So the fix is in, the press conference was stalled so the message could be spun and Muslims protected by deflecting the truth - that this was an act of terrorism by an American-born Muslim.

I don’t doubt for a moment that this Administration is controlling the message. And if you believe the lie that Obama is a dedicated Christian because he claims he is, then you have a bigger problem than my telling you to seriously rethink what has happened the last two days.


31 posted on 11/07/2009 7:19:16 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: 1066AD

We truly do get the best print news on our own country out of Britain now.

OK, if Al Qaeda trained a handful of men to come here, infiltrate over months into an army base, and then go nuts one day and shoot up a room, and then they kill 6 innocents, is that a terror attack?

What if ONE man who had never met Osama bin Laden but felt as he did went in and shot up 13 people while crying Allahu Akbar? Is that not a terror attack?


32 posted on 11/07/2009 7:21:06 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: 1066AD

Wow got more info from one UK Paper than all the msm in U.S. combined.


33 posted on 11/07/2009 7:27:20 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Diogenesis
All news to Americans is from the UK, Pravda, and the Internet. The American MSM is bonded to the Enemies of America.

You're right, Diogenesis.

34 posted on 11/07/2009 7:43:12 PM PST by GOPJ (There's NO condemnation of this bastard in the M uslim S ympathizing M edia - MestaMachine)
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To: 1066AD

She took a round through the femoral artery, and almost bled to death. There is a nerve bundle next to the femoral artery, high up on the leg. If that is destroyed, she may not walk again without huge pain.

And the bullet, which is an extremely high velocity bullet,like a rifle bullet in velocity ( 1800-1900 fps), may have shattered bones.

I pray she recovers completely, but her wounds are terrible to her legs. One round went through both of her legs.


35 posted on 11/07/2009 7:43:33 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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To: keepitreal

Oh? Good for AC and CNN!


36 posted on 11/07/2009 7:58:20 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 290 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: 1066AD

Good article, thank you for posting it.

I noticed several things: particularly the 5.7 FN rounds being referred to as “cop killer” rounds; in conjunction that the “over 100 rounds” and “five or six magazines” leads me to believe that the non-revolver gun was the FN FiveSeveN handgun and not the P-90/PS-90. {I have a fondness for the PS-90.}

The “cop-killer” round {steel cored} is unavailable to civilians; restricted to military & law-enforcement. (Unless the media is referring to the rifle-powered-round in a handgun definition; I hate that the term is so loosely defined.) I also wonder if this is going to drive that round’s caliber completely off the market due to a push from the gun-control crowd.

Which brings me to the final point. The military is, oddly enough, the leftist’s dream: your food, shelter, and medical-care are provide for by the government; further, your right to bear arms is heavily under the subordination of your command. {Look at the statement about private firearms and keeping them in the armory; a requirement on some bases.} Private firearms can also be verboten, as I recall hearing ad infinitum on my train-up at Ft. Dix as I prepared to go to Iraq.

The real lesson here is the one that, in all likelihood, won’t be adopted: The Army slogan/catch-phrase “Train as you fight.” When in Kuwait or Iraq you never went anywhere w/o your weapon; chow-hall, toilet, medical, finance... the only place you didn’t take it was the shower (for obvious maintenance reasons).


37 posted on 11/07/2009 8:00:18 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 1066AD; Jeff Head; sergeantdave; Blogger; murphE; Paleo Conservative; It's me; devolve; ...
Other residents at the Casa del Norte apartment complex were surprised to see the mild-mannered army officer accompanied by another man in Islamic dress.

Ping

38 posted on 11/07/2009 8:07:00 PM PST by GOPJ (There's NO condemnation of this bastard in the M uslim S ympathizing M edia - MestaMachine)
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To: 1066AD
I find it very odd that a Major, doctor or not, would live in such a "low rent" apartment, on the "not so nice" end of town. The BOQ would have been nicer, and there are plenty of nice apartments, duplexes and rental houses in town.

Lived in a nice duplex myself while my (very modest) house was being built, a few years ago.

There is also a Muslim neighborhood near the Mosque, which is in the city but a sort of separate area with not much around it. It has nice houses and I think some duplexes as well.

39 posted on 11/07/2009 8:12:16 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SZonian
She was returning from the war zone pregnant.

But apparently got that way while on "Mid" deployment R&R leave in Chicago.

40 posted on 11/07/2009 8:13:42 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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