Posted on 11/07/2009 7:30:18 AM PST by opentalk
Taking candy from a baby: A consortium of Chinese and American companies goes to Washington and announces plans to build a $1.5 billion windmill farm in West Texas using $450 million in U.S. Stimulus funds, which will create 2,330 jobs 2,000 of them in China.
The baby Washington -- doesnt cry or whine or spit in the consortiums face. Thats whats really wrong with this story.
So accustomed to being bought and sold, Washington simply begins processing forms so it can hand over your tax dollars to create jobs in a turbine factory in the city of Shenyang, China at a subsidy of $193,133 each.
Its like these bureaucrats live in Wonderland. Or an America where the unemployment rate isnt 10.2 percent. Or where 40,000 American manufacturing facilities didnt disappear in the past decade. Or where banks didnt repossess nearly a quarter million American homes in the past three months.
Weve got a message for Washington: Hell no! Were not giving tax dollars to China. Whats wrong with these businesses and our government? It is the $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. Its not the Chinese Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
Its bad enough that weve off-shored our factories and technology and jobs over the past 20 years. Were not off-shoring our Stimulus cash too. In fact, were tired of serving as the schoolyard wimp of the world. We need our own industrial policy so we can stand up and compete in the world market manufacturing the likes of wind turbines. And we need it now.
China has an industrial policy. And it uses that policy to dominate. Here is how Keith Bradsher of the New York Times described Chinas policy to become a world leader in renewable energy, which of course, would include construction of wind turbine factories:
Calling renewable energy a strategic industry, China is trying hard to make sure that its companies dominate globally. Just as Japan and South Korea made it hard for Detroit automakers to compete in those countries giving their own automakers time to amass economies of scale in sheltered domestic markets China is shielding its clean energy sector while it grows to a point where it can take on the world.
China protects its chosen industries in many ways. It provides low interest loans, some of which dont have to be repaid. It may give free land on which to construct buildings. And there are other perks that Bradsher described:
When the Chinese government took bids this spring for 25 large contracts to supply wind turbines, every contract was won by one of seven domestic companies. All six multinationals that submitted bids were disqualified on various technical grounds, like not providing sufficiently detailed data. . . even as Chinese companies that had never built a turbine were approved. . .
Later, Bradsher describes European disgust at the Chinese treatment:
European wind turbine makers have stopped even bidding for some Chinese contracts after concluding that their bids would not be seriously considered, said Jorg Wuttke, the president of the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China.
China has a policy. It ruthlessly protects its own industries.
China was among the many countries that complained bitterly when the U.S. included Buy American provisions in the Stimulus Bill. In fact, Vice Commerce Minister Jiang Zengwei told a press conference in Beijing in February that China would not do such a thing, We wont practice a Buy China policy, he said. Four months later, thats exactly what China did, instituting its own, stricter Buy China policy as part of its economic stimulus program.
China did what China felt was necessary for its economy. And it ignored foreign criticism.
Thats hardly the U.S. tactic. Wilting under criticism, Congress diminished the Buy American provisions before passing the Stimulus.
As a result, weve got a consortium -- U.S. Renewable Energy Group, Cielo Wind Power and A-Power Energy Generation Systems so bold that it believes it can get nearly half a billion dollars in American Stimulus money for 2,000 Chinese wind turbine jobs. The consortium says it would import 240 Chinese turbines to Texas where 300 temporary construction jobs would be created and another 30 permanent jobs established.
The wind turbines could easily be made in the USA. Bradsher, of the Times, says the Chinese concede that while their turbines cost slightly less initially, they have higher repair costs. He wrote, United Nations data from trading of carbon credits shows that the Chinese-brand turbines produce less electricity because they are more frequently out of action.
Really, is that what we want to buy with American tax dollars for a wind farm in West Texas?
If the United States put half the effort into supporting its renewable energy industry that China does, thered be no way this consortium building windmills in Texas would be looking overseas for turbines.
China has a plan. In its strategy, it doesnt consider America first or the remainder of the world first. And thats what the USA must do. We need an industrial policy that makes no apologies for putting America and American workers first. And when thats the calculus, no American official would ever countenance a request to give $450 million in American taxpayers dollars to a turbine factory in China. And no American consortium would consider making such a stupid request.
In the meantime: Hell no! They dont get our dough!
Gee, when the administration said its environmental policies were going to create hundreds of thousands of “green jobs,” I mistakenly assumed those jobs would be in our country. Is there a way to stop this?
Trying to buy off the dragon before it turns and buys us out, and who had a part of this? Everyone who bought something “made in China” within the last couple of decades.
This will not end looking pretty.
I have no philosophical objection to greening China, but it should be the old fashioned way, we sell the means to them.
Our government hates and fears its citizens. They plot our destruction, because we hold values that are so different from theirs.
We're mean-spirited too.
They own Hummer? We sold them a dog?
The reason China agreed to buy our debt IMHO is because of this exact situation. When we give aid to other countries there is always strings attached to most of it, we will give you “X” amount of money and you have to spend it buying American products.
I think the Chinese are simply doing the same thing here, they are buying our debt but have an agreement that money has to be spent back to China, just like we have done in Africa for decades.
We balk here the next round of debt sale might go very different than they have, I think there have been closed door meetings long before this situation hit the light of day.
It's only 450 million. Why worry about chump change?
Its not like we handed out a half a trillion dollars to foreign banks.
"China today celebrates its sixtieth year of existence as a Communist State. The celebrations in Beijing have been marked by an unprecedented public display of massed military power and sophisticated weaponry."
From when they celebrated their 60th anniversary last month. They are getting stonger as we become more vulnerable.
Well, it’s hard to believe that even our congresscritters are that boneheaded; one would have to think that at least some of them are also personally benefiting from this obscene scam. (This is not to ignore the significant category of stupid and venal congresscritters, which our native criminal class, as Mr. Rogers styled them, has always had a surplus of.)
could go to citizens in the USA—tax refunds.
The Hummers we know stateside are mere glamor posers. They are not equipped to cope with the rigors of a battlefield. If China wants to crank out more glamor posing trucks using the Hummer name, I wish China well. China already knows how to make true battle vehicles and the Hummer name will add nothing more to that capacity.
They’ve been sending our tax dollars to China for years. Why stop now?
that it believes it can get nearly half a billion dollars in American Stimulus money for 2,000 Chinese wind turbine jobs.
The author mistakingly assumes that US taxpayer dollars are being used for the stimulus.
That is incorrect. Stimulus funds were actually borrowed from China.
The only thing US taxpayer funds are used for is to pay interest on the money that we borrow.
Beyond that, we are simply broke and up to our eyeballs in debt.
It's always shocking to find out how worried they are about the other countries, not the U.S.
They seem to think that Washington is like some island kingdom that rules the world, but they don't know why. It's just assumed. And that the welfare of the rest of the world is what's important - and U.S. will just have to take care of itself.
The problems begin and end in the Imperial City.
Well, they are the one’s holding our debt.
Thats hardly the U.S. tactic. Wilting under criticism, Congress diminished the Buy American provisions before passing the Stimulus.
China does what is best for China while this administration is anti-America and pro-China. Simple!
Is T. Boone Pickens part of this deal? Last I heard he had shut down his West Texas wind farm, the largest in the USA, because no one would build the transmission lines for him and he refused to pay for it himself. If he is not part of it, why not? Building the transmission lines would create jobs here.
Is this deal separate from Picken's and, if so, are they going to build another one while his is idle? Why?
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