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The Fort Hood shooting suspect's religion is not the point (Who saw this coming?)
The Hartford Courant ^ | November 6, 2009 | Susan Campbell

Posted on 11/06/2009 8:37:38 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 11/06/2009 8:40:52 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Nidal Malik Hasan, the suspect in yesterday's Fort Hood shootings that killed 13 and wounded 30, identifies as a Muslim.

Much has and will be made of his religion from people too ignorant to read a Qur'an, or too isolated to talk to a Muslim, or too stubborn to educate themselves. Even the Washington Post calls him a "devout Muslim." But can a "devout Muslim" commit such acts? No more than a "devout Christian" can, no.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
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They will bend themselves like pretzels to make this into just another crime, craziness, Bush's fault, or whatever else they can think up.
1 posted on 11/06/2009 8:37:38 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Susan Campbell has not read the Koran, does not understand the ideology of Islam, and is ignorant of the history of Islam.

What Hasan did is absolutely in line with all of the above.

2 posted on 11/06/2009 8:39:48 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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and instead of going to the war, he brought the war to the US military.

Words fail me.

3 posted on 11/06/2009 8:40:12 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, thank goodness he didn't yell "abortion is a sin!" or something before he opened fire.

/sarc

4 posted on 11/06/2009 8:40:33 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Joe Wilson speaks for me.)
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Here is a statement condemning the act from Council on American-Islamic Relations, which says, in part:
No religious or political ideology could ever justify or excuse such wanton and indiscriminate violence. The attack was particularly heinous in that it targeted the all-volunteer army that protects our nation.

And it is permissible to lie to the infidel (Sura something-or-other).

This was Sudden Jihad, plain and simple.

5 posted on 11/06/2009 8:40:46 AM PST by Old Sarge (Marking Time On The Government's Dime)
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Me: “Have they released his name yet?”

My sister: “You know what he’ll say.”

My mom: “He’s a Muslim.”

Me: “!!!!!!!!!! I knew it!”


6 posted on 11/06/2009 8:40:55 AM PST by wastedyears (My 15 seconds of fame are on my profile.)
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http://galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=18503e97f397c039

“They were telling him that one guy was shouting something in Arabic while he was shooting,” Tom Hunt said. “He couldn’t say much more than that.”


7 posted on 11/06/2009 8:41:04 AM PST by roses of sharon (Call the NFL and welcome their new Commissioner, Al Sharpton.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Susan Campbell is a complete moron.

If a person kills while brandishing a Bible, they are looked at as lunatics by Christians, let alone other religions.

Yet when a person brandishes a Koran and kills people in the name of Allah, we are supposed to NOT blame the religion when people from their religion make the living off telling other Muslims to do such acts?

NO ONE is telling Christians to go kill for God. MANY people are telling Muslims to kill for Allah. They even videotape their murders they commit and post them on YouTube.

Religion of Peace my Ass.


8 posted on 11/06/2009 8:41:09 AM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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Just a coincidence that he is a Muslim and shouted “Allahu Akbar” as he started shooting.

/s


9 posted on 11/06/2009 8:41:22 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (TIME Person Of The Year, 2006 (Look it up!).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Susan - you're an idiot.

Drop the mouse and step away from the keyboard before you hurt someone.

10 posted on 11/06/2009 8:41:39 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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It most certainly IS the point! The murderer shouted Allu Akbar (or whatever) and that MAKES it the point. It was a religious killing with him.


11 posted on 11/06/2009 8:42:06 AM PST by madison10
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I’d be willing to believe this wasn’t due to the shooter’s Muslim beliefs if it was an isolated event.

But then, there was 9/11.

There was the Arkansas shooting of a recruitment center.

There’s all those attacks the world over.

There’s all those sleeper cells being broken up.

I just can’t fool myself any longer.


12 posted on 11/06/2009 8:42:19 AM PST by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Its common knowledge that the translation for “Allahu Akbar” is stop teasing me.
13 posted on 11/06/2009 8:42:19 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

scampbell@courant.com


14 posted on 11/06/2009 8:42:44 AM PST by roses of sharon (Call the NFL and welcome their new Commissioner, Al Sharpton.)
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Not the point????

When he handed out Koran’s the morning of the shooting?

When he shouted Allahu Akbar as he killed US soldiers?

When he objected to being deployed because muslims should not fight mislims?

And the ******** at CAIR want to claim it’s irrelevant?

***** ‘em.


15 posted on 11/06/2009 8:42:46 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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Bravo Sierra to this article. Hasan used his religious beliefs to try and go out in Jihad. Plain and simple.

Does that mean all muslims will do so? No, of course not.

Does it mean there is a latent possibility, depending on how their belief is interpreted (which, BTW, interpretation is rife all across this nation in radical Mosgues)? Yes.

This was Jihad within the ranks, plain and simple. Very similar to Sgt. Akbar in 2003.

Hasan had been under investigation for his statements and internet postings which included suggesting that more Muslims should strap on bombs and take the fight to America after the Arkansas recruiter was killed in Little Rock earlier this year, and posting on the internet that islamic suicide bombers were like US soldiers who jump on a hand grenade to save other soldiers lives.

He was very outspoken against the war and was fighting his upcoming deployment to Afghanistan and was actively fighting it.

Of course he was being harassed by other officers and probably by some enlisted personnel (though they would not do it openly to his face because he, Hasan, himself was an officer...more like the word getting out about his attitude and the way he was treated and responded to, particularly off-duty). I do not blame soldiers for that, for responding with disdain to one who stands against them in their mission and takes up the cause and mantra of the enemy. I blame Hasan himself, and the system that kept him in the position he was after these feelings and beliefs came to light.

He should not have been working with any soldiers returning from the war zone or deplying to it. In fact, he should have been discharged from the military altogether IMHO.

We’d best recognize the warning signs and the source for it and not, as this author does, try and ignore that source or write it off. If we fail to do so, we will see more such events.


16 posted on 11/06/2009 8:42:59 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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islamic/muslim values and culture will never mix with and Judeo-Christian values and culture! ...no matter what liberals tell us!

Much less the intolerant closed eastern-minded cultures vs liberal open western-minded cultures.

This clash results in the regular reporting of so-called 'honor-killings' where a muslim family member is murdered for becoming 'westernized' and 'disrespecting islam'.

17 posted on 11/06/2009 8:43:16 AM PST by TexasCajun
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Sorry, Susan. It IS the religion.

It’s Islam.

It’s not Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.

It’s Islam.

I - S - L - A - M.

Get it, liberal idiot? In your spare time, go back to college and get a degree in something that’s actually challenging.


18 posted on 11/06/2009 8:43:19 AM PST by Da Coyote
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Sorry, Susan. It IS the religion.

It’s Islam.

It’s not Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.

It’s Islam.

I - S - L - A - M.

Get it, liberal idiot? In your spare time, go back to college and get a degree in something that’s actually challenging.


19 posted on 11/06/2009 8:43:25 AM PST by Da Coyote
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We gotta stand up to the muslims, the sooner the better.


20 posted on 11/06/2009 8:43:30 AM PST by manonCANAL
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