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AP Unclear What Motivated Devout Muslim Shouting "Allahu Akbar" to Kill
Jawa Report ^ | November 6, 2009 | Rusty Shackleford

Posted on 11/06/2009 7:33:18 AM PST by La Lydia

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To: Boardwalk
“Soldiers being over-deployed for a war without end and pushed to the breaking point.”

What idiots...he hadn't been deployed to a war zone yet and he was a psychiatrist, not a front line soldier...that blows that theory out of the water.

41 posted on 11/06/2009 7:56:59 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Whatever his motive was, I’m just glad it had nothing to do with islam..”

Yes, we don’t want more rampant discrimination against Muslims.


42 posted on 11/06/2009 7:58:03 AM PST by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: La Lydia
The motive for the shooting wasn't clear

My working theory is that he was disgruntled about the cafeteria food on the base, but I'm continuing to seach for clues on this mystery regarding the motive.

43 posted on 11/06/2009 7:58:44 AM PST by San Jacinto
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To: GeronL

It’s to the point where I expect a newscaster to be doing a liveshot from City Hall as Muslims stage a loud demonstration against our military presence in the middle east, and for City Hall to suddenly explode into an orange ball of flame — and the newscaster to shout “Oh my God! Oh my God! I can’t believe it! Well — the one thing we can say — Oh my God! The one thing we can say at this point is that this is not a terrorist act!”


44 posted on 11/06/2009 7:58:56 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: SMARTY

My thoughts exactly. I heard a FNC reporter exclaim this morning that, “Authorities are still searching for a motive in yesterday’s Fort Hood massacre.” I thought, huh?


45 posted on 11/06/2009 7:59:02 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: La Lydia
Why the US Should Bar Muslims from Military Service
46 posted on 11/06/2009 8:00:26 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: popdonnelly

The left’s working theory now is that he was pushed over the edge by people harassing him for being a Muslim.


47 posted on 11/06/2009 8:00:27 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Boardwalk

Post traumatic stress disorder fits the liberal template. Except this guy had never been deployed anywhere more stressful than Walter Reed and Fort Hood. Although Washington D.C. can be stressful.

The media is in a self-induced coma. Don’t join them.


48 posted on 11/06/2009 8:00:32 AM PST by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: BenLurkin

It was all those little islamic prerecorded messages ricocheting around in his muslim brain. Instead of imploding, he decided out of survival to explode. Just representative of the power of embedded messages that cannot be erased. Doesnt matter that you call him an American. Doesnt matter that he can parrot the exam material to pass tests for “achievement”.

Hows that go? You can take the boy outta da country, but, you cannot take the country outta da boy?


49 posted on 11/06/2009 8:00:53 AM PST by himno hero
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To: Lera

Pay no attention to the angry muslim terrorist with a gun, according to libs I’m more of a terrorist because I have a pro-life bumper sticker on my car.


50 posted on 11/06/2009 8:02:02 AM PST by chae (I am karmic retribution)
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To: San Jacinto

Clue...Muslim Edition...Just in time for Ramadan

Hasan, with a gun, on a table.

I see revolt coming very soon!


51 posted on 11/06/2009 8:08:44 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

lol. thats about right.


52 posted on 11/06/2009 8:09:00 AM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: La Lydia

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/1501/i-told-you-so-the-muslim-doctor-terrorists-are-no-surprise-revealing-muslim-doctors-oath/

Hey AP...get a clue and try to get off your butt and tell the real story. Maybe you should try to use the little Google button and type in “islamic doctors terrorists”. Plenty there, has been, for a long time.

This link has been posted many times on several freep threads, but here it is again. This ain’t rocket science folks. It is in the doctrine. The doctors are just following the script. This ain’t new. To them, a non-muzzie is no more than a herd of buffalo waiting to be shot. Remember, to them a non-muzzie is a non-human. When they talk of a human being, they are talking of a muzzie. If they are saying kind, loving things to a non-muzzie, it would be similar to one of us, saying something to a cow in the pasture and rubbing it’s head. Does not mean that we am not getting ready to take it to the market.

To this day, buffalo are no more alarmed by a gun report and one of the herd dropping than than were when they numbered millions upon tens of millions. They will walk over to one that was dropped, smell the blood, look around and then wander off. There are not tens of millions of them anymore...


53 posted on 11/06/2009 8:09:35 AM PST by pack29172
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To: La Lydia

CNN doesn’t know either! I’ve been listening to the radio and the past 2 hourly reports talked about the shootings and how they’re looking for answers.

NOT A MENTION of muslim, terrorism, allahu akbar, or anything! UNFREAKINBELIEVABLE!!

There’s an elephant standing on their face and they don’t even notice it! RIGHT!!


54 posted on 11/06/2009 8:10:26 AM PST by RogerWilko
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To: La Lydia

Now THAT is a headline!

;-)


55 posted on 11/06/2009 8:10:38 AM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: gussiefinknottle

Yes, but when Bill asked he said—this gentleman, this soldier, this KILLER!


56 posted on 11/06/2009 8:14:16 AM PST by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: TNoldman

Well food for thought.
I had to find a Speialist recently. I was shocked at how many Docs are from Muslim countries.
I wonder what happens with Obama care. Will Americans (especially women) be forced to go to Docs with this bent.
Just a thought.


57 posted on 11/06/2009 8:19:21 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: San Jacinto

I thought it might be the new, desert tan camouflage outfit he was issued for his deployment, and we he went berserk because the color didn’t flatter his skin tone.


58 posted on 11/06/2009 8:21:30 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
Amazing, isn't it?

And this is worse than not having a clue, this is selling cluelessness. Had this happened at the neighborhood Olive Garden restaurant, would they have a clue, then? No, of course not, but they would feign have a clue, in that alternative situation. And they would give it a name, translating "not enough gun control."

And they are bound to bring that up, before all is said and done.

How about "intense demonic activity," would that work? Aw, yes... too Christian, I suppose.

Well, they could ask themselves what motivated sixty million Germans to join the Nazi comic opera, and why were they offended when, after all was said and done, if was explained to them that their "just following orders" was not an excuse, and a worse defense.

Our shooter fits the profile, along more than one track, of people who join Mass Movements.

Specifically, see the definitive work on the subject, The True Believer, by Eric Hoffer (1950).

The readiness for self-sacrifice is a big clue. Unfairly short, the perception of a permanently ruined self, incapable of socialization or of capacity and/or opportunity for achieving a sense of unquestioned usefulness, the subject seeks self-annihilation and escape from the burden of responsibility that comes with freedom by submission to a collective mind, where choice becomes the prerogative of the group, especially a group touched with timeless destiny.

Add to Hoffer the singularly Judeo-Christian view that there is no escape from the responsibility that comes from "knowing good and evil."

A pet cat will tease a captured and stunned mouse until the prey is stunned or dead, literally torturing the mouse to death, and no one suggests that the cat is doing anything other than its "natural born thing."

But if little Johnny does this, we might seek professional help. (Hopefully that professional help won't come from a deeply disaffected Muslim army shrink, however.)

There's no mystery here. The shooter made a deliberate decision, coldly, based on a perception of having merged his unwanted self with a collective that cannot die, and cannot be questioned.

It's amazing how so recent a history as that of World War II can be lost on so many, so quickly.

59 posted on 11/06/2009 8:22:21 AM PST by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: MamaDearest

Did you see his pics at the convenience store yesterday morning in his muslim garb white robe and hat? Wonder if he shaved his body before the killings?


60 posted on 11/06/2009 8:26:24 AM PST by WestCoastGal
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