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What does election in New York have to do with Beaufort County? (NY 23, not GOP 100 years)
beaufortobserver dot net ^ | 11-4-09

Posted on 11/04/2009 7:38:00 AM PST by doug from upland

NOTE: HERE IS THE NEWS YOU'VE BEEN HEARING REGARDING THE 23RD DISTRICT IN NEW YORK -----

Democrats win New York congressional race, but conservatives claim victory too Posted: November 4th, 2009 02:06 AM ET

From CNN Political Producer Rebecca Sinderbrand

(CNN) – The three-way race in New York's 23rd congressional district ended Tuesday night with a surprise Democratic win - the first for the party in the reliably-Republican district since the 19th century.

Democrat Bill Owens defeated Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman to claim victory in a race where an internal GOP fight drew national attention - and forced the party's candidate, Dede Scozzafava, out of the campaign.

National Democrats, smarting over gubernatorial losses in New Jersey and Virginia, seized on the win, with Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine dubbing it "perhaps the most consequential race of the night."

"This race turned out to be the worst of all possible worlds for Republicans as not only did the Democrat, Bill Owens, win a seat that Democrats have not held in more than 100 years, but what occurred in New York has exposed a war within the Republican Party that will not soon end," said Kaine.

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NOTE: HERE IS AN ARTICLE TELLING A DIFFERENT STORY. THE DEMS HELD THE SEAT IN 1993.

NEWS & COMMENTARY section What does an election in New York have to do with Beaufort County? Could be a barometer of shifting political sands October 25, 2009 In case you've missed it, there is an interesting race going on in up-state New York. In Congressional District 23, in what is euphemistically called "The North Country," they are holding a special election November 3 to fill a vacant seat that became vacant when Rep. John M. McHugh resigned to become Secretary of the Army.

McHugh is a Republican. The district has been predominately Republican in recent years. In fact, 1993 was the last time a Democrat was elected, but the district has been changing since then. The best a Democrat has done in recent years was in 2006 when Robert Johnson ran second to McHugh with 37% of the vote.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 23rd; conservative; elections; newyork
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1 posted on 11/04/2009 7:38:04 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

The anwer is easy. Conservatives have shown that their strength is superior to RINOs. The GOP would have won the seat, had they chosen a Conservative at the beginning instead of helping the mole Scozzafava spoil it in favor of the Democrats.


2 posted on 11/04/2009 7:41:33 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: SolidWood

The point is that the RATS are playing up that they won a seat held by the GOP for over 100 years. That appears to not be true.


3 posted on 11/04/2009 7:43:14 AM PST by doug from upland (10+ million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: SolidWood

Yes, and people in northern NY state look to government as much as possible just like their compatriots in NYC.


4 posted on 11/04/2009 7:44:27 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: doug from upland

Democrats LIE....what’s new?


5 posted on 11/04/2009 7:45:19 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tagline, oh tagline, whereart thou?)
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To: doug from upland

Trying to minimize the loss are they?

If I had to make my living spinning the truth into such fantastical shapes every day, I’d retch every time I saw my reflection.

(OTOH, maybe the media vampires don’t have reflections?)


6 posted on 11/04/2009 7:45:23 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 287 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

*sigh* ...get the most out of the win...

Their only win of the day.

Dayton and Toledo turned out their rat mayors.


7 posted on 11/04/2009 7:47:33 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 287 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: doug from upland
"This race turned out to be the worst of all possible worlds for Republicans

No, the GOP still won, in a twisted way. It seems they'd rather have a Democrat in office than a Conservative. The Dem is the "political enemy", so their cushy jobs as chairmen are safe. If a Conservative wins, those jobs might disappear if the "rabble" get smart and throw out the Country Club set.

8 posted on 11/04/2009 7:47:44 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: doug from upland

Who was the last Democrat to hold the seat?

facts are handy things.


9 posted on 11/04/2009 7:49:51 AM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: doug from upland

What kind of post is this? Where is the information?


10 posted on 11/04/2009 8:00:02 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney/Scozzafava 2012)
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To: lack-of-trust

to add more complexity to the question, Congressional districts move. Every ten years seats are re-apportioned, so it is possible that today’s NY23 does not overlap the NY23 of 60 years ago.


11 posted on 11/04/2009 8:00:56 AM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: lack-of-trust
Who was the last Democrat to hold the seat?

facts are handy things.

Parts of the 23rd haven't been represented by a Dim since the 1890's .. Michael McNulty (After redistricting Dim - 21st) was elected by other parts in 1993.

Linky Thing 1: Click Here
Linky Thing 2: Click Here

There ya go ..

12 posted on 11/04/2009 8:05:27 AM PST by tx_eggman (Obama has "Czars" because men with more integrity than he has still use the titles "Don" and "Capo")
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To: lack-of-trust

and in 1 year this seat is up for a new election. Is Virginia or New Jersey?


13 posted on 11/04/2009 8:06:19 AM PST by scooby321
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To: doug from upland

Too bad that scozzie didn’t drop out earlier so that the absentee ballots could have reflected votes for Hoffman.

That’s my analysis.


14 posted on 11/04/2009 8:09:15 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: tx_eggman

THANKS!


15 posted on 11/04/2009 8:12:43 AM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: doug from upland

They will be only the temporary occupants of that didtrict office for one (1) year. In 2010, the Republicans will unite behind one candidate through the primary process and that candidate will defeat the Democrat. Look at the simple math; Rep. Votes + Conservative Votes exceed Dem. votes.


16 posted on 11/04/2009 8:24:45 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Salvation
Too bad that scozzie didn’t drop out earlier so that the absentee ballots could have reflected votes for Hoffman.

No accident, that was.

Absentee ballots are vulnerable to this kind of shenanigans.

17 posted on 11/04/2009 8:32:42 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: doug from upland
On New York's 23rd race and 'other things'
  1. The NY GOP (and national) screwed the pooch on this Special Election race. It was an open secret that Dede Scuzzyfuzzy previously considered running as a Democrat for this seat, but they picked her anyway.
  2. Having big name republicans like Newt backing Dede didn't help Hoffman, the kool-aid drinking voters did what Newt said to do.
  3. So if Dede had dropped out earlier, Hoffman would have won. He lost by only 4,593 votes.
  4. Those 4,593 votes were likely cast by people who didn't know Dede dropped out, vote for someone simply due to an 'R' after a name, or don't listen to any news - are all over 85 and semi senile.
  5. This was a SPECIAL ELECTION, the Dem will be in office for ONE YEAR. In 2010 Hoffman can run again, but WITH the backing of the NY and national GOP behind him.
Now, for those 'Other Things'.
There was another race in New York yesterday that isn't getting attention. For Mayor of New York City. It was Bloomberg and his Billions vs 'somebody'.

Bloomberg and his Billions won. But NOT BY MUCH. That 'somebody' almost pulled the rug from under that little tyrant's feet. Bloomie won solely due to the voters in Staten Island (per FoxNews). He did not win his fellow rich Jewish voters in Manhattan and Queens.

Now if the liberal Bloomberg can barely win in the bluest of blue NYC, the liberals (democrats) have a problem and its 'HUGH" and 'SERIES'.

18 posted on 11/04/2009 8:38:24 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: doug from upland

Hoffman was a weak candidate; non-telegenic who didnt know the local issues. He would have won easily otherwise, IMO. He couldnt even get the local paper’s endorsement, which usually goes to Republicans


19 posted on 11/04/2009 8:44:36 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: tx_eggman

No, they’re talking about the congressional district which was last held by a Democrats in 1993


20 posted on 11/04/2009 8:47:22 AM PST by chemical_boy
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