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NY-23 2009: America has changed [Hoffman concedes defeat to Owens]
Doug Hoffman for Congress ^ | 2009-11-04

Posted on 11/03/2009 9:58:12 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: The Pack Knight
In the end, I’d say today was a loss for Obama, but not a win for conservatives. A win for Hoffman would have put conservatives in a very strong position. His loss means the fight for the soul of the GOP is alive and well, and certainly won’t be resolved before the 2010 elections. This could get ugly.

I agree with that.

181 posted on 11/04/2009 12:02:11 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: ansel12

Your thoughts are what I’ve been thinking.

No wonder this certain poster wanted Dede to win-—one more RINO to disrupt the country.


182 posted on 11/04/2009 12:05:15 AM PST by Cedar
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To: ansel12
Maybe you should look into conservatism, it is real popular here at freerepublic.

Clearly winning is not. I've donated hundreds of dollars to FR and I've been posting here since 1999. Maybe you should look into clicking on the posters name before you make assumptions.

I used to call myself a conservative Republican...now I'm just a Republican. I want to defeat rats...something conservatives seem opposed to.

183 posted on 11/04/2009 12:07:22 AM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican To The Core)
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To: Cedar

Thanks.


184 posted on 11/04/2009 12:10:23 AM PST by dschapin
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To: ansel12

And another thing, the RINO’s here at FR are trying to spin this as a big loss for conservatives, but deep down they are scared.

They know this was a huge showing for a candidate who was only in the race for just a few weeks....and who also gained lots of votes in a very liberal state!


185 posted on 11/04/2009 12:10:57 AM PST by Cedar
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To: Once-Ler

If you got kosclowns and ACORN saying that a RINO was the rat’s rat over another rat—then why would you want that in the House???


186 posted on 11/04/2009 12:11:40 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Once-Ler
I used to call myself a conservative Republican...now I'm just a Republican.

I have been reading through your posting history through the evening, it is clear that you do not like conservatism or conservatives, I didn't expect to come back to this thread and see you admit it so easily though.

It is very clear that you prefer Scozzafava over a conservative, period, you really seem to care about the woman and her place in the republican party. I hope you realize that she is finished in republican politics.

187 posted on 11/04/2009 12:14:45 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney/Scozzafava 2012)
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To: Cedar

You should read the guys posting history, what a whiny little liberal he is.


188 posted on 11/04/2009 12:16:32 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney/Scozzafava 2012)
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To: ansel12

Maybe Dede is a relative of his.


189 posted on 11/04/2009 12:16:57 AM PST by Cedar
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Oooh, you haven’t seen the arguments yet. Give it time. Rubio can’t win moderates, dontchaknow, just like Hoffman in NY23 couldn’t... That’s only the beginning...

Well, maybe the GOP can put you on their payroll to make that argument to conservatives.

You can use this thread as a sample of your work.

On second thought, maybe you better not. Not too many conservatives are buying your argument here.

190 posted on 11/04/2009 12:18:55 AM PST by onemiddleamerican (FUBO)
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To: Psalm 144

Better to have tried and failed then to never have tried at all, besides at the least a conservative vs a leftist appears more sensical than a leftist vs a leftist... at least you get the option of a choice!


191 posted on 11/04/2009 12:18:58 AM PST by RayTheSpook
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To: rabscuttle385

Hoffman succeeded in fully exposing the liberals in the Republican party in a very glaring light. He did his country a great favor.


192 posted on 11/04/2009 12:21:36 AM PST by TheThinker
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To: BradyLS
rats lie. They wanted this outcome. Foolish conservatives bought it and backed an unelectable FAR-right candidate in a RINO district in a liberal state. Go check KOS and see how they are laughing at us.

Do you really think KOS wanted a Republican, who was also endorsed by the 11 GOP county chairman in NY-23 (and they know a little bit about their district), Gingrich, and the NRA, was preferable to a liberal rat?

Do you really?

193 posted on 11/04/2009 12:22:10 AM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican To The Core)
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To: Once-Ler

Well, forget about what KOS wants. One thing’s for sure-—conservatives did not want another RINO.

Mission accomplished.


194 posted on 11/04/2009 12:27:52 AM PST by Cedar
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To: dschapin
If this had been settled with a primary election (like should have happened here) then the moderates wouldn’t have been nursing a grudge and a conservative candidate could have won easily.

If this had been settled with a primary election Hoffman would not have won, and conservatives wouldn't have wasted a lot of time, money, and headlines better written about 0's failures.

195 posted on 11/04/2009 12:28:03 AM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican To The Core)
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To: rabscuttle385

Damn. And I was really praying hard for Hoffman. Thank you regardless of the outcome Mr. Hoffman.


196 posted on 11/04/2009 12:29:09 AM PST by MeekMom (http://www.bible.ca/indexsalvation.htm)
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To: Cedar

The more of his past posts that you read the more you realize that this guy is close to troll material, he really, really dislikes conservatives.

“The conservative wing of the party is lead by talk radio, and are no conservatives of national stature, because talk radio doesn’t consider men like John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, and Mitt Romney really “conservative.”


197 posted on 11/04/2009 12:29:53 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney/Scozzafava 2012)
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To: ansel12

It is very clear that you prefer Scozzafava over a conservative, period, you really seem to care about the woman and her place in the republican party. I hope you realize that she is finished in republican politics.


Heh. She is finished in politics, period. She just jacked $900,000.00 from the GOP, then quit and endorsed the opposition party. Do you honestly think the Democrats will give her the opportunity to punk them like that?

Whoever trusts a mole, or a double agent that has been turned? Like the defector she is, she will be allowed to exist in her new ‘home’, but she will never be trusted or achieve power or status.


198 posted on 11/04/2009 12:31:14 AM PST by Psalm 144 (FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE, I AM PROUD OF NEW JERSEY!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

It’s one battle my friend but we are in for the long haul! We have many battles to fight and I am proud of Hoffman and will never look at the GOP the same again for what they did in that race. And we must never let them forget they lost that race not Hoffman!


199 posted on 11/04/2009 12:31:25 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Once-Ler

Gingrich breaks bread with Pelosi, so who’s selling who out? RINOs lie, too. But I learned that long ago. RINOs won’t get my vote. 94% of NY-23 didn’t want to back one, either.


200 posted on 11/04/2009 12:31:36 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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