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Hoffman Concedes in New York’s 23rd Congressional District Race
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Posted on 11/03/2009 9:22:41 PM PST by tricky_k_1972

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: gingrich; hoffman; newtgingrich; ny2009; scuzzafava; scuzzy
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To: sport

They couldn’t use enough fraud to win in Virginia and New Jersey last night.

What happened in New York reflects the old adage, “A house divided against itself will not stand.”


161 posted on 11/04/2009 4:15:31 AM PST by deannadurbin
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To: bmwcyle

Ah good old Rt 15. I know it well as I went to school in Geneseo in the mid-70s. Later I moved east to attend RPI in the mid-80s and worked for a few years in the Capital District. With all the tax incresases I don’t think I could afford to live in NY any more. When I lived in the Capital District we used to actually drive to Massachusetts because the sales tax is LOWER there.


162 posted on 11/04/2009 4:17:22 AM PST by rhombus
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To: truth_seeker
I think the locals said: “Screw you national bigshots. We’ll pick who we want, and here is the result.”

I was thinking that too. And since the high profile outside "bigshots" were all conservative darlings, it's their loss.

163 posted on 11/04/2009 4:26:22 AM PST by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: tricky_k_1972

Thank you Pete Sessions for spending $1M attacking Hoffman before deciding to “endorse” him (and then not even spend $0.01 to help him).


164 posted on 11/04/2009 4:27:38 AM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA--a/k/a ObamaCare--or lose reelection)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

He wouldn’t have won on absentee ballots. He surged late and any Republican vote would havc gone to DeDe.


165 posted on 11/04/2009 4:36:47 AM PST by imskylark
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To: Tzimisce
One vote closer to Obamacare, higher taxes and surrender!

Owens will be the most nervous blue dog in DC for a whole lot of reasons that should be obvious to Freepers.

There is no reason to think that he will be any more of a reliable vote for Pelosi's agenda than Dede would have been.

So it sux that Hoffman lost, but still better than a Dede win.

NY23 is not the result I'm most disappointed about, that would have to be Mumbles winning again in Boston.

166 posted on 11/04/2009 4:39:24 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Goldman Sachs is Obama's Halliburton)
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To: Huck
Talked about NY23 over the weekend with my father in law who lives in the next district south but whose business takes him up there all the time.

His take was that Dede has a LOT of personal friends and allies who saw the whole Hoffman thing as a betrayal and voted for Owens or sat it out.

Freepers may not like this sort of friendship-over-ideas motivation, but not liking it does not make it go away.

For that reason, I would not get on board for Hoffman in '10 - the bitterness will still be there.

167 posted on 11/04/2009 4:45:41 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Goldman Sachs is Obama's Halliburton)
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To: April Lexington

Sweet Victory.. Dems pick up another seat...
Awesome
/sarcasm off


168 posted on 11/04/2009 4:46:36 AM PST by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: mmichaels1970

“It’s funny though, that I see the libs spinning NJ as the “chips were stacked against Corzine and he was losing badly, until Obama showed up. Without Obama, Corzine would have had no chance. It wouldn’t have been so close..etc.” “

Are they really saying that? Limbaugh said they would spin it and the above is exactly how he said they would do it.


169 posted on 11/04/2009 4:47:22 AM PST by imskylark
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To: Notary Sojac

“Owens will be the most nervous blue dog in DC for a whole lot of reasons that should be obvious to Freepers.”

As Milton Freedman said (paraphrased), it’s not necessary to get a good congressman. What’s necessary is to show the existing congressman that it’s in his political interest to vote the way you want him to vote.


170 posted on 11/04/2009 4:48:46 AM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: concerned about politics

Her and Gingrich both do...


171 posted on 11/04/2009 4:50:18 AM PST by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: freedumb2003

If Hannity or anyone has Newt on - call and tell them we do not want to hear from that DIABLO. Serial divorcee and adulterer - Newt.


172 posted on 11/04/2009 4:54:31 AM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Notary Sojac
Talked about NY23 over the weekend with my father in law who lives in the next district south but whose business takes him up there all the time. His take was that Dede has a LOT of personal friends and allies who saw the whole Hoffman thing as a betrayal and voted for Owens or sat it out. Freepers may not like this sort of friendship-over-ideas motivation, but not liking it does not make it go away. For that reason, I would not get on board for Hoffman in '10 - the bitterness will still be there.

Was it not a north-easterner that said 'all politics are local', or words to that affect. I guess times must be 'good' in this district.

173 posted on 11/04/2009 4:55:25 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: rllngrk33

“WTF”

No, What The GOP, Gingrich and Scozzafava!


174 posted on 11/04/2009 4:56:01 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Consulting, you ask? That F'ing moron)
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To: tricky_k_1972
Were there absentee ballots in NY?
Sorry if this was already talked about and I missed it.
175 posted on 11/04/2009 4:57:13 AM PST by novemberslady
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To: deannadurbin

>>> “What happened in New York reflects the old adage, “A house divided against itself will not stand.””

A house built on a bad foundation will not stand.

A house built out of crappy materials will not stand.

A house built out of bull—— will not stand.

A house built on an active volcano will not stand.

blah blah blah....

This “house” IS divided and one side MUST become extinct. Im sorry to inform the socialists in the GOP and elsewhere that they can expect to see the fight against them intensified. The mask was removed when scuzzy supported the democrat, and that alone made NY23 worth it!

;^)

The GOP WILL be purged of socialists.


176 posted on 11/04/2009 4:58:11 AM PST by myself6
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To: tricky_k_1972

I think the factors to this race are as follows:

1. No primary. Party officials picked a candidate behind closed doors. (had they picked someone even slightly to the right of Owens, the GOP would have won)

2. That candidate was not a great match at all (look at the results)

3. The third party candidate came in way too late in the game. If this were stretched out a few months, the race could have been different.

4. Hoffman’s lack of political experience was a liability to him.

5. The national exposure of the race may have caused the locals to revolt from all the outside influence.

6. Dede would have LOST this race if there was no third party candidate. She was more liberal than Owens.

7. Lastly, RINO’s showing there true colors here by siding with the dums.

I think that 2010 will see a reversal of this seat. The conservatives have weilded power in this race and that is going to have many ramifications in ‘10 and ‘12 across the nation. Right now, conservatives are now targeting RINOS in next springs primaries. A step backwards now but will likely reap benefits in the next two years.


177 posted on 11/04/2009 4:59:56 AM PST by TMA62 (TMA62)
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To: TV Dinners

The gop WILL be purged of socialists...


178 posted on 11/04/2009 5:00:55 AM PST by myself6
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To: truth_seeker
he wasn’t exactly Mr. Charisma or much of an orator.

I saw him on Cavuto I think. Come on. He might be a nice guy but the pubs/conservatives got to look for someone with a gift of speak, the ability to capture and keep attention. To dismiss this as the stuff of liberals is to welcome another Obama to the presidency. Hoffman was seriously lacking.

Also, I was surprised that scuzzyfuzzy got 7000 votes. What were THOSE voters thinking?

That sniveling Dem guy was on Fox & Friends this morning and he says he wants to thank Palin for putting a Dem in that district for the party.

Heh. Wishful thinking....they got to say something.

I say Obama and the Dems took a walloping hit and the pubs took a beating on this Hoffman thing. The political elite one might say, in fact.

When all is said and done even the Hoffman story was a victory. If he had Scuzzyfuzzy votes he'd be a winner. That should be the pub spin, not that the pubs have a clue.

179 posted on 11/04/2009 5:07:13 AM PST by Fishtalk
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To: TMA62
I think the factors to this race are as follows:

Good list...but don't forget one other important one...there's no way the democrat or republican establishment was going to let Hoffman win. They virtually control all of the election apparatus and it's my guess (albeit uniformed) that the fix was in as soon as he declared.

180 posted on 11/04/2009 5:20:58 AM PST by DouglasKC
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