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GE's $19 Billion (And Increasing) Toxic Asset Sink Hole
Zero Hedge ^ | 11/3/09

Posted on 11/03/2009 2:49:01 PM PST by FromLori

One, and maybe the only, of the recent benefits of the FASB's meager attempts at providing balance sheet transparency has been the requirement for banks and financial companies to disclose the difference between the Fair Market Value and the Carrying (Book) value of their assets, especially as pertains to loans held on the balance sheet. And while even the FMV calculation leaves much to be desired, it does demonstrate which companies take abnormal liberties with their balance sheets, instead of performing needed asset write-downs as more and more loans turn toxic. A good example of just such optimism appears when one evaluates the disclosure by "banking" company General Electric. On page 38 of the firm's just released 10-Q, the firm indicates that the delta between its loan portfolio FMV and Book Value continues increasing, and as of September 30, hit an all time (disclosed) high of $18.8 billion. In other words, General Electric, whose market cap is about $150 billion at last check, is likely impaired by at least $19 billion if it were forced to access the market today and sell off its loans. The $19 billion is 13% of its entire market cap. And the real number is likely much, much worse.

The delta between the Carrying and Fair Market Value of GECC's loans can be seen on the chart below:

A reminder of how GE calculates loan FMV is taken from the company's 10-K:

Based on quoted market prices, recent transactions and/or discounted future cash flows, using rates we would charge to similar borrowers with similar maturities. In other words FMV uses the traditional Level III evaluation methodology. And even when using DCF (we assume that was used as it will always give the firm the "best", most palatable value reading), GE is still seeing a nearly $20 billion balance sheet shortfall?

What is more troubling, is that even as GECC has been collapsing its balance sheet, with book value of loans dropping from $305 billion to $292 billion from FYE 2009 to Q3 2008, the FMV-Book delta has increased from $12.6 to $18.8 billion. And this is occurring in a time when the credit market is presumably surging? Is there something wrong with this picture? As we pointed out, the $18.8 billion is likely a gross underestimation of the real valuation shortfall, if one were to really mark all of GE's myriads of illiquid loans to market.

Yet if nothing else, this shortfall should explain GE's urgent desire to sell NBCU and to use the ~$30 billion in proceeds to plug what is becoming an ever growing hole.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ge; toxicassets
I like the remarks...

by MinnesotaNice on Tue, 11/03/2009 - 15:20 #118761

What is $19 billion between friends... and the USG will never allow those loans to be sold in the open market if it would impair the financial health of GE... there will be some multi-alphabetic acronym set up by Geithner and Bernanke to purchase those loans :-)

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1 posted on 11/03/2009 2:49:03 PM PST by FromLori
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To: FromLori
GE's a toxic asshole?"

"Oh. Never mind..."


2 posted on 11/03/2009 2:52:08 PM PST by frankenMonkey ("Natural Born Citizen" - US Constitution, 1787; "Words have meaning" - Barack Obama, 2009)
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To: FromLori

Bump for reference


3 posted on 11/03/2009 2:53:16 PM PST by EverOnward
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To: frankenMonkey

Thanks, can never get enough of her, just imagine the fun she’d have with all this.


4 posted on 11/03/2009 3:01:25 PM PST by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: FromLori

If the GE portfolio is as crappy as GE stoves and dishwashers, this bunch is in real trouble...


5 posted on 11/03/2009 4:00:36 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: FromLori
Perhaps this explains why GE has been wiping out motorcycle dealers all over the country by pulling their flooring loans and repossessing the inventory. We lost all the Yamaha dealers in eastern Idaho since June. Many other small dealers around San Diego (and some large ones) have crashed and burned for the same reason. Yamaha was very inflexible about permitting loans from other than GE. It's not as if the dealers didn't make the effort to find an alternative.
6 posted on 11/03/2009 4:17:11 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: FromLori
What's the matter witha you?
Never heard ofa da Ravioli method of accounting?

I cooka the books, for you!

7 posted on 11/03/2009 4:36:22 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

Speaking of cooked books

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/reason-market-swoon-realistic-testimony-feds-jon-greenlee


8 posted on 11/03/2009 4:47:13 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori
"We want banks to deploy capital and liquidity, but in a responsible way that avoids past mistakes and does not create new ones."

Hording your cash???

Master Chief Rahm of Freddie's Diner will cook up a nice Freddie Mac-lactose cheese souffle.

Let's cook up some inflation to loosen whats left of their assets.

9 posted on 11/03/2009 5:50:12 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: FromLori
My ‘freep’n’ head is spinning! My eyes haven't stopped bouncing since Paulson and Bernanke came out and yelled FIRE in the world economic theater and AIG’s former CEO (don't know if I can use his name) sat on a ‘business network’ grinning like a small dog passing a large obstruction and made ‘guarded’ references to those sub-prime mortgages had been ring-fenced and all the money they were receiving (from Uncle Sugar) were to back up ‘what was on the books’.....????? And heeerrrrssss GE!
10 posted on 11/03/2009 5:52:30 PM PST by forest153 ("There's a snake in my boot!")
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To: DaveTesla

I think Newsmax was reporting recently that GE has been banking on the Obama gang to not only bail them out but make them highly profitable (cap n’ tax you know). I don’t think Obama’s toadies would be stupid enough to bite the hand that feeds them, but then again if they have to throw GE under the bus...


11 posted on 11/03/2009 5:55:52 PM PST by dr_who
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To: dr_who
"but then again if they have to throw GE under the bus..."

What, throw their propaganda division along with all them
green windmills and solar panels under the bus?

Nahhhh....

12 posted on 11/03/2009 6:03:47 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

Ah yes, their propaganda division (*NBC). I’d overlooked that. I’m sort of ashamed I did. If there’s anything this year has shown, it’s that the MSM has nothing to do with journalism and everything to do with huge, continual power plays in NY and DC.


13 posted on 11/03/2009 6:22:27 PM PST by dr_who
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To: DaveTesla
To DaveTesla,
It has been pretty intense studying all this nonsense....what a lot of grown people are doing in/to our country and the world. Here I was studying this article and digesting this mess and glancing through the comments and your silly pictures (chef and Frick & Frack) with your comments just came out of left field and slapped me silly. What a riot! You are a true Freeper to be admired and enjoyed. I have found that people on Free Republic are intelligent and exceptionally informed but refuse to let all this get them down or drive away their spirit. They will slip in humor when least expected but so desperately needed. Thank you!
14 posted on 11/03/2009 6:28:18 PM PST by forest153 ("There's a snake in my boot!")
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To: forest153

Thank you!

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Dont let the bastards grind you down.)
nos volo vinco vici victum
(We will overcome.)


15 posted on 11/03/2009 8:29:07 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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