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White House Considering Negotiated Settlement With Taliban; 'Minimum Security' in Afghanistan
November 1, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 11/01/2009 7:20:58 PM PST by kristinn

The Obama administration is considering an almost complete surrender in Afghanistan, if the report this weekend by the BBC's Katty Kay is accurate.

Speaking as a panelist on the Chris Matthews Show, a weekend public affairs broadcast, Kay reported on the internal debate at the White House, "There are real questions being asked, I think, about whether even with a big injection of troops this is a real country, a real war that you can win.

"And there's a new phrase which is floating around the White House which is 'minimum security'. That we're not actually aiming for a country which is stable that we are in control of, but we are aiming for a minimum amount of security and perhaps even a negotiated settlement with the Taliban."

This would tie in with reports that Obama has concluded the U.S. cannot beat the Taliban and that he has requested new studies this week, one of each province to determine which ones may be ceded to the Taliban and another for troop levels other than those requested by Gen. McChrystal over two months ago.

Kay's remarks start at the 19:10 minute in the backward clock on the video. She describes three different views on the situation in Afghanistan that have been presented to Obama: The military needs a large injection of troops to perform the current strategy; even with more troops Afghanistan will never be winnable; and "'we have no choice but to win this war' and that is what President Obama said back in March."

Obama has delayed making his decision such that it most likely will not be announced until the end of November, three months into the twelve month window left to win the war Gen. McChrystal stated in August.

Troop casualties in Afghanistan have skyrocketed in the past three months with over 1000 being wounded, and a reported 58 service members killed this past month making it the deadlist month of the eight-year long war.

On Friday, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs bragged Obama has spent almost twenty hours in meetings on Afghanistan since August.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; appeasement; bho44; bhofascism; bhotreason; chrismatthews; democrats; dhimmicrats; dithering; fubo; kattykay; military; nationalsecurityfail; obama; surrender; treason
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To: kristinn

“Minimum security” translates to:

In the next three years, don’t spend a lot of time in American skyscrapers, or in large American cities at all, if you know what I mean.


81 posted on 11/01/2009 9:02:24 PM PST by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: kristinn

All the soldiers who have died fighting terrorism have died in vain.

Have a nice day and keep voting Democrat! :D


82 posted on 11/01/2009 9:03:09 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: kristinn
Obama's asking for the collapse of the Afgan government and more terrorist attacks on the United States.

Has Obama forgotten what happened last time when the Taliban controlled Afganistan?

I don't think he has.

83 posted on 11/01/2009 9:05:31 PM PST by TheThinker
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To: Bobkk47
““Obama lost Afghanistan”. That’s what people will say years from now.”

If there’s an America years from now.

84 posted on 11/01/2009 9:07:26 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: kristinn
Operation Valkyrie
85 posted on 11/01/2009 9:10:58 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: kristinn

It’s the old “give Hitler the Sudetenland” strategy.


86 posted on 11/01/2009 9:11:41 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (Get rid of the dirty moderates. Get rid of them,)
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To: Vince Ferrer

“When Obama is presented with the identical situation, he chooses to lose the war. “

iraq and afgh. are not identical countries or situations.


87 posted on 11/01/2009 9:13:07 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: kristinn

So after all this time he spent “in deep thought”, trying to come up with a plan on how to proceed in Afghanistan, his decision is to “CUT & RUN”???

Rush Limbaugh was right. Obama is “in over his head”!


88 posted on 11/01/2009 9:14:07 PM PST by airborne (I'm from an older generation. When killing the enemy was a good thing!)
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To: kristinn

Elections have consequences.

And just think: Obama’s reversal of eight years of progress against the Taliban is just the beginning of his legacy.


89 posted on 11/01/2009 9:23:55 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: Jet Jaguar; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; ...

Unfit for command.

Amen to that, Jet Jaguar.

90 posted on 11/01/2009 9:27:25 PM PST by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: kristinn
This would tie in with reports that Obama has concluded the U.S. cannot beat the Taliban and that he has requested new studies this week, one of each province to determine which ones may be ceded to the Taliban and another for troop levels other than those requested by Gen. McChrystal over two months ago.

We can beat them into the dust. We can turn Afghanistan into a nuclear wasteland. We can depopulate the entire country and take out Pahhhhkeeeeestahhhhhn with it. But we can't see his birth certificate. My neighbors elected this fraud. They are to blame.

91 posted on 11/01/2009 9:31:04 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
"Unfit for command."

AMEN!
92 posted on 11/01/2009 9:32:07 PM PST by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
The Taliban is a rag tag bunch of poorly armed, poorly trained and poorly equipped rebels. If the US military can't beat these clowns, they don't stand a chance against a well armed, well regulated, highly sophisticated, digitally connected AMERICAN PATRIOT ARMY....
93 posted on 11/01/2009 9:33:10 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping!


94 posted on 11/01/2009 9:34:09 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: There's millions of'em; kristinn; Jim Robinson

There’s millions of’em, you’ve made a damn scary post in #32. Unfortunately, I think you may be right...


95 posted on 11/01/2009 9:35:49 PM PST by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: ElkGroveDan
It’s the old “give Hitler the Sudetenland” strategy.

Hitler had an army. Hitler had a mighty manufacturing base. Hitler had a sophisticated gentry. Hitler had banks, metal, oil , gun powder, scientists, technology, etc. Afghanistan has towels and goats and sand... Why, oh why is Obama selling us down the drain? Simple. He's in WAY over his affirmative action head...

96 posted on 11/01/2009 9:36:13 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: bsf2009
Meanwhile... obama displays his masculinity on the basketball court... These soldiers could kick his ass all over Afghanistan
97 posted on 11/01/2009 9:39:46 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington

GOD HELP US
and
Prepare. Time is running out.


98 posted on 11/01/2009 9:43:19 PM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: kristinn
Here is the only type of negotiated settlement that should be considered.



99 posted on 11/01/2009 9:49:50 PM PST by F. dAnconia (We say: "It is, therefore, I want it. They say: "I want it, therefore it is")
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To: misterrob

Exactly. If we had gone all Hiroshima on them on Sept.12, 2001...we wouldn’t be having this discussion right now.


100 posted on 11/01/2009 9:50:10 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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