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The Real Story (behind NY23, VA, and NJ)
NRO ^ | 11/1/2009 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 11/01/2009 6:50:21 PM PST by markomalley

'm writing about this for my USA Today column, but the Frank Rich hissy fit is a perfect example of the real story of the election. The story is not that the GOP is self-destructing, it is that the conventional wisdom is being shown to be ludicrous. For some time now Frank Rich, Sam Tanenhaus and countless others (including David Frum) have been arguing that the GOP is a rump party and the only way for it to survive is for it to embrace me-too Republicanism of one flavor or another. The story of all three major races (VA, NJ, and NY-23) is that this conventional wisdom was incandescently wrong and ill-advised. Hoffman and McDonnell owe their success to the support of independents (the independents all of these people said wanted moderate, Democrat-lite policies) and to Republicans determined to stay true to conservative principles. Not only was the conventional wisdom wrong, the idea that there's a "civil war" within the GOP revolving around this argument is nonsense. The GOP is an unapologetically conservative party, providing a choice not an echo, and — horror of horrors — it's working.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: conservativevote; independentvote; jonahgoldberg; rino; rnc; va2009
Now if the RNC would understand this concept.
1 posted on 11/01/2009 6:50:23 PM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I like his last line— it’s been my tagline for over a year....

hh


2 posted on 11/01/2009 6:57:03 PM PST by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: markomalley

Agreed. It’s the entrenched RINO leadership that needs to be blasted out.

Need a candidate named Jack Hammer.


3 posted on 11/01/2009 7:00:17 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: markomalley
The GOP is an unapologetically conservative party|


Goldberg is dreaming. The OP(formerly the GOP) abandon conservative principles long ago in favor of the big tent, reach out across the aisle, in the spirit of bipartisanship mentality.
4 posted on 11/01/2009 7:02:32 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: rockinqsranch

I hope to one day see McCain hawking TV Ears on cable at midnight.


5 posted on 11/01/2009 7:03:25 PM PST by hemogoblin (Obama - The Potentate of Parasites)
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To: markomalley
What real Republicans should do to the ostriches that want to turn the party over to people like Scuzzy:


6 posted on 11/01/2009 7:03:54 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Richard Kimball

I love that video.


7 posted on 11/01/2009 7:16:42 PM PST by rbbeachkid (The ONLY ones able to fix the economy - Small Business Owners!)
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To: markomalley
Hoffman and McDonnell owe their success to the support of independents (the independents all of these people said wanted moderate, Democrat-lite policies) and to Republicans determined to stay true to conservative principles.

More or less.

I have to wonder what it is about that bubble that would have them believe that the growing rank of "Independants" indicate a public becoming more Liberal? Given there is a Liberal party wouldn't they turn to them? Those self identifying as Republican is so low because conservatives have declared themselves Independent and they are converting people to their cause. If the parties want the Independants, they should be going right and not left.

8 posted on 11/01/2009 7:27:28 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: markomalley

**The GOP is an unapologetically conservative party, providing a choice not an echo, and — horror of horrors — it’s working.**

Bump that!


9 posted on 11/01/2009 7:42:52 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley
http://www.bobmcdonnell.com/ for Governor

http://www.billbolling.com/ for Lieutenant Governor

http://www.cuccinelli.com/ for Attorney General

Jonah agrees with the point Virginia FReepers have been making regarding the apparent success of this slate.

10 posted on 11/02/2009 2:39:14 AM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: markomalley
For some time now David Frum argued that the GOP is a rump party and the only way for it to survive is for it to embrace me-too Republicanism of one flavor or another.

There he goes again-----Frum's full-time occupation is being an ****ole.

BTW, there's a reward out for anyone who can determine what Frum and the rest of the pukeneos actually do for a living-----with a bonus if you can find out who signs their paychecks. No one has yet figured out if the pukeneoes have any visible means of support...... other than infiltrating the US government, putting out agit-prop, incessantly pontificating on foreign policy issues, squatting in the Repub Party, and kicking us so/cons to the curb .

Oh wait---I just remembered (snicker)...... Dickster Perle IS going into the oil business in Iraq. Nice that US tax dollars and the blood of young Americans made the region safe for Perle's business ambitions, wasn't it?

Pukeneos have no visible means of support---but they get paid handsomely to squat in the Repub Party, hoping to destroy it from within. (That ain't gonna happen.)

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And now------The Winner of the 2008 Best Election Night Performance Award in the category of:
"Neos Know Nothing About this Republican Disaster."


Smirkin' Billy Kristol (McC campaign mastermind)

"Thank you very much. But I could not have done it without the help of all the
punkeos--David Frum, Michael Gerson, David Brooks, Richard Perle.....and
my Dearest Daddy."

"Sniffle---my Dearest departed Daddy (who was Giuliani's foreign policy advisor) said,
"The historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism is.....to convert the
Republican Party and American conservatism in general, against their
respective wills,
into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to
governing a modern democracy."

"Sob."

"I especially want to thank punkneo Douglas Feith for faking documents on his
home computer so we punkneos could dupe the president."

"Without Doug we would not have been able to transfer trillions of US dollars
into the Mideast, into the pockets of war profiteers, which enabled Richard Perle
to startup an oil business in Iraq with his cut."

Kristol smirked: "Making Iraq safe for Perle's oil business with US tax dollars was truly a noble punkneo effort."

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AFTERTHOUGHTS The 2008 political entrail readings showed the crucial conservative base stayed home. Too bad the pukes "forget" to tell McC that would be one outcome of the punkneo-RINO bi-partisanship. Be aware that many senior neocons are rank opportunists who squatted in the Repub Party for their selfish stealth purposes-----they are actually former Trotskyites that flew the coop when Stalin executed their hero.

AS FREEPER TADSLOS COGENTLY POSTED : "People forget that candy-ass Kristol, and his crony, metro-sexual Brooks are the original makeover artists for McCain post-2000. They are McC's original groomers and media switch operators.....obsessed with religious cleansing of the party. Kristol at his most smirkiest---urging McCain to fire his 2008 staff, to start all over at the 11th hour, as McC's numbers tanked. Shows how how ill-conceived, advised, equipped and poorly managed McC's campaign was. But then, what else to expect from a Republican candidate made up of neopunks Kristol and Brooks."

Watching Kristol smirking and squirming in his Fox seat election night as McC lost was a consolation prize to this abortion of a losing 2008 election cycle.

11 posted on 11/02/2009 3:36:42 AM PST by Liz (ALL FOX---ALL THE TIME---24/7)
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Obama is facilitating the New Jersey fraud.....he and the Chicago mobsters installed in the WH are expert at stealing elections........they are working overtime to pull this fraud off.

The NY Times reported:

(a) every TV ad Corzine puts on the air is being screened by the Obama's WH team.

(b) The governor’s aides give the WH daily briefings.

(c) Obama’s pollsters have taken over for Corzine’s polling team, and,

(d) White House operatives are on the ground for everything from internal strategy sessions to secret, obscure pep rallies with Latinoes, (still toweling off after swimming the Rio Grande).

Corzine has a "Peruvian PAC" endorsing him. Latino invaders from Ecuador, Mexico, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Cuba, El Salvador, Guatemala, Puerto Rico and Spain are currently "registered" to vote in NJ (or being trucked in election day) under several names.......all voting for Corzine under several identities.

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THAT’S WHAT FRIENDS ARE FOR Ohaha hid $17.5B federal stimulus in Jersey. According to an investigative news report, the billions have simply disappeared.....never to be seen....never used for the muni projects the WH heralded.

Obama and Biden visited Corzine couple times (SURPRISE: Ohaha put Biden in charge of the stimulus dispersal). We can safely conclude Ohaha hid $17.5B stimulus in Jersey to aid Jonny’s reelection. $17.5 B is a lot of walking-around "street money." Will buy Jon Boy all the hyphenated voting blocs he needs to get back in.

Let’s not forget Corzine was sucking up to 2008 candidate Hillary ---and even offered to fund primary do-overs for her (that she lost when states broke DNC rules).

But when push came to shove, faster than you can say “I’m a loser with Hillary,” at the DNC convention, Corzine gave all of NJ’s primary votes to Obama (even though Hillary won the NJ primary).

12 posted on 11/02/2009 3:40:34 AM PST by Liz (ALL FOX---ALL THE TIME---24/7)
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To: markomalley

The conventional wisdom should have been simple to grasp. The rats are in a power therefore the off-year elections should at worst at least slightly favor the Republicans.


13 posted on 11/02/2009 4:45:41 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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