Posted on 10/29/2009 10:19:10 AM PDT by Elderberry
Judge Carter Ruling on MTD
If I were a bookie, I'd start taking odds on how long it will take Orly to get disbarred.
“This cut and run call to lay down arms and leave this country defenseless is an effort by Plaintiffs to emasculate the military. “
Judge Carter
OIC....you were injecting religion into the story...sorry I am a little slow on the uptake today.
no need to insult Sgt Carter.
No question. If the RNC or the Republican nominee wanted to explore this controversy, and to litigate it, standing,justiciability to include the courts ability to provide a remedy, would all easily be met. The case would be heard and decided entirely on its merits. And, it's a case that could be hear in either federal courts, or any of the other 50 state courts. Challenges to ballot access are litigated all the time.
Seems rather convoluted to me to state you’re honoring the Constitution by ignoring it’s tenets regarding eligibility as it relates to the presidency.
As for other courts and their rulings, they were tasked with making judgments based on the facts before them. So is Judge Carter. What those other judges decided, has no bearing on this case.
Either the facts support the plaintiff’s argument, or they don’t. That’s all the judge should address here.
This guy was looking for any excuse. His Constitutional argument was silly. I believe his admonition regarding other courts was also silly.
“But your honor, here’s the video of the defendant plunging the knife into the victim’s back with his own hand.”
“Look, other courts have acquitted murder defendants. Aren’t you disrespecting those courts by bringing this case before me? Why yes, I believe you are. Dismissed.”
When it comes to the top officials in this nation, there really isn’t any governing law. They can do whatever they please. In this case our Constitution was given the same weight as any worthless bit of paper in the local dump.
Plaintiff Keyes was a candidate.
Are we certain this is real? It's not like we haven't seen forgeries and other false documents in these cases. Nothing at http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/ yet.
So what happens if Superbozo runs for a second term? Will we get to prevent him from taking office then since we seem to have no standing now? Or will he get to run purely and merely because he completed a first term, albeit fraudulently in the minds of many people?
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We need to start work on changing the election laws in as many states as possible to require more than just a signed statement certifying that candidates are eligible. We need some kind of independent verification process outside of the parties (DNC, RNC, etc.).
The country is defenseless.
We are done, stick a fork in us.
Yes! I propose a Clarion Call to a huge Patriotic Group of Constitutional Attorneys to band together and put the egos and petty differences aside and get an office in D.C. and start a huge concentrated effort to process the Quo Warranto Law and confront Obama. Start the process and go up to SCOTUS again, or have it dealt with through Congress, whatever the path is. I make a plea for Leo Donofrio, Ed Vieira, Orly Taitz, Gary Kreep and any other Patriotic Conservative attorneys to band together, pool their talents and resources and start the Quo Warranto process as soon as possible. I'm thinking a major push, a Ken Starr Special Prosecutor type effort to push this along. Get 50 attorneys, 100 paralegals, get a huge office in Washington D.C. and give it the biggest full court press you can. If the word got out this was happening, people would donate a Lot.
Is this an extreme idea? Was it extreme that the MSM and the powers at be elected a Manchurian Candidate communist last November who is constitutionally not qualified to serve as President of the United States and be Commander in Chief of our Armed Forces? Is your Country worth it? Does the Constitution still matter? I look at my 10 yr old Grandson and think what is the country going to be like when he's my age if this communist "progressive" system takes over the country?
It says “ Defendants motion to dismiss is granted.”
I only read parts of the ruling.
This court considers Obama to be POTUS, solely because he was sworn in as POTUS. (I disagree with the judge, but the judge puts a LOT of emphasis on the swearing-in ceremony). Obama’s removal would then have to be by Congress. Because Obama is now POTUS (in this court’s opinion), Alan Keyes no longer can demonstrate injury, and thus does not have standing.
There are some very positive things here, things that will work in favor of discloure of the BC in an appeal.
First - the case was dismissed because this judge felt that he lacked jurisdiction to take action against another branch of the government. Implication is that a higher court might have jurisdiction.
Second - he discusses that, as a candidate, Alan Keyes, DID have standing, even though he was a minor candidate. The judge seemed particularily concerned that this suit wasn’t filed until after the swearing-in ceremony (Orly and Kreep are responsible for this delay). IMHO - This will make it very difficult for Obama to run in 2012 without disclosing his BC.
Ouch! That's gotta sting.
Have a little bit more optimism for your country and the military protecting us.
Sounds like Judge Carter was more of a political patsy than a Marine. Bet the Obama Admin found out everything that was in Carter’s closet...must be some underage boys somewhere
There is nothing more BS than “standing” or “not having standing” in a court of law. Anyone who voted in the last election would have standing in a case regarding Obama’s birth certificate.
As a former attorney-colleague told me regarding to “standing” in the courts: “Depends how much drinking the judge did the night before”
I am sure all those ENABLING OBAMA are a little more happy now....nothing like faux-cons who do everything to keep a non-qualified person in the White House. Anyone who smites or criticizes those who want to know the truth about Obama’s birth is ENABLING OBAMA
Maybe Orly will see if she can earn herself $20,000 in fines from Judge Carter as well.
And now the tough gutsy marine judge will be called a spineless sellout who was intimidated by the Obama machine.
It’s all ok:
I just received a call from Orly Taitz, my attorney in the case seeking proof of Obama’s eligibility for the Office of President of the United States. Judge Carter has release a statement declaring that the dates he set for the hearing and trial on the eligibility issue are confirmed, and it will move forward as scheduled. Apparently he was not swayed by the Obama lawyer’s arguments.
Alan Keyes, October 7, 2009
Thanks for the update, LucyT.
Ping.
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