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Gingrich should shut his trap. Conservatives are sick of holding our noses.

NY23 Hits Its Tipping Point

1 posted on 10/28/2009 12:02:56 PM PDT by neverdem
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No matter what Gingrich says, I fear the damage has been done. I suspect that the GOP is gonna lose this seat because of the fracture in the GOP.

The sad part is that this fracture is not your typical moderate vs conservative battle. Scozzafava is at best only nominally a Republican. Her stances are to the left of many moderate or even liberal Republicans. The GOP in NY’s 23rd CD should never have even entertained the idea of her candidacy.

Worse yet, the Democrats will point to this election (if Owens wins) as proof that the Democrats are posied to win big in 2010. They’ll completely ignore the results from Virginia or even the King County (Wash) Executive’s race. And the media won’t question the Dems’ assertion either.

I sincerely hope that Hoffman can win this election and hopefully shut the Dems up - fast!


57 posted on 10/28/2009 12:19:39 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: neverdem
Newt quadruples down. You are still going to lose.
58 posted on 10/28/2009 12:19:40 PM PDT by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: neverdem

Newt...how much are the commies paying you behind the scenes? STFU.


60 posted on 10/28/2009 12:20:11 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: neverdem

Hey!

I will not vote for one because he appears to be the winner!

I will not fail to vote for my choice because he looks like he will lose!

I will never not vote for the guy someone else tells me not to vote for!

I will never again vote for the lesser appearing of evils!

I will vote based on principle; and that includes not voting if I see fit!

Pick it over—you get the picture!


61 posted on 10/28/2009 12:20:38 PM PDT by gunnyg (Just An Old Gunny ~ And *Still* Not A F'en Commie Basterd!)
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To: neverdem

From a macro perspective, what happened when we went with “go along to get along” candidates in 2006 and 2008? We got trounced.

No one on our side was more willing to kowtow to the illegal aliens. What happened? McCain got shellacked in that demographic.

The reason is simple: When the choice is democrat and democrat-lite, why would any voter choose democrat lite?

When the choice is conservative vs. democrat, conservatism wins.

Wake up, Newt. For a bright guy you’re incredibly obtuse.


62 posted on 10/28/2009 12:20:42 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: neverdem

I thought Hoffman is leading in the polls. Don’t see how a vote for Hoffman helps the democrat. A vote for Hoffman in this case, helps win the seat. The republican cannot win.


63 posted on 10/28/2009 12:21:04 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Praying for -16 today.)
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To: neverdem

He doesn’t understand that we don’t care about winning some stupid “game” anymore. What is the point of even belonging to a political party if one acts liberal and says they are liberal, and the other acts liberal and says they are conservative? There’s just not enough there to get me to come out to vote, sorry.


64 posted on 10/28/2009 12:21:27 PM PDT by mudblood
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To: neverdem

Newt kissing alot of DUmocrat a$$ lately...heard on Rush's show Gnewt will be playing HIDE THE SALAMI in Missouri with Howard Dean.


65 posted on 10/28/2009 12:22:36 PM PDT by RasterMaster (The only way to open a LIEberal mind is with a brick!)
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To: neverdem

And, Gingrich is a damned liar.

He claims local republicans unanimously voted to appoint Scozzafava?? See this article for the real story: http://tcotreport.com/23ny1.html

Yesterday Gingrich claimed that the former republican rep in the district, McHugh, was pro-choice and pro-gay marriage. That was a lie too: http://www.ontheissues.org/NY/John_McHugh.htm

Finally, it’s breathtakingly cynical for Gingrich to argue this on 10th amendment grounds. Gingrich, which candidate is more likely to protect the 10th amendment limit on federal government power: Hoffman the conservative? Or Scozzafava, who reportedly is in favor of the Obama “stimulus” plan, in favor of federal card check legislation, in favor of sweeping federal health care takeover, etc., etc., etc.

Newt is vermin.


66 posted on 10/28/2009 12:22:36 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: neverdem

Gingrich has now tied a boat anchor around his own feet. If Hoffman wins, Newt loses. Just whose water is he carryng? He needs to get off that couch with Nancy Pelosi.


68 posted on 10/28/2009 12:23:58 PM PDT by Truth29
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69 posted on 10/28/2009 12:23:58 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: neverdem
I am surprised that a video or transcript of Gingrich on Fox&Friends Sunday morning hasn't made it to the Internet (that I can find).


71 posted on 10/28/2009 12:24:13 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: neverdem

The GOP treats Conservatives the way the Donks treat minorities.

“Booga Booga! You must vote for us or else! Don’t even think about leaving the plantation, there’s monsters out there! Booga Booga!”

What’s next?
NRCC commercials saying that voting for Hoffman will mean more conservative churches will burn?


77 posted on 10/28/2009 12:28:52 PM PDT by EricT. ("Mankind, when left to themselves, are unfit for their own government." -George Washington)
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To: neverdem

What ever Newt. Not going to buy that reasoning/threat anymore. We need to vote for CONSERVATIVES who will actually represent us. If you think that ...woman... is going to vote in the conservative caucus, you are OUT OF YOUR MIND and we should not be listening to you. Because from all appearances, Dede is going to vote with Nancy no matter WHAT party she is in.

Damn, you would think that Newt thinks we are stupid or something... dang.


78 posted on 10/28/2009 12:29:06 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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"She's not dramatically different from McHugh. ..."

"...how come when the New York State Republicans in four separate meetings make the same unanimous choice and at all four meetings pick Dede Scozzafava, how come that's somehow not good enough?"

Gingrich is not just wrong, he's lying. This was not how Scozzafava was selected. The actual story is a bit more complicated, and a whole lot uglier than what has been generally reported.

The following link, courtesy of Freeper StatenIsland in another thread, is an account of how, in addition to Scozzafava, there were actually eight other GOP prospects vying for the spot, ALL of whom were acceptably conservative and would have been endorsed by the NY Conservative Party, thus guaranteeing a GOP win, except that the GOP committee chairwoman manipulated the voting process to put in her friend, Scozzafava. In fact, Scozzafava was the one the Conservative Party folks specifically told the GOP committee they would not endorse. The ugly truth is that not only were all eight conservative GOP candidates betrayed by a corrupt committee chairwoman, she also betrayed her own committee members.

Here's the link from the TCOT Report:

http://tcotreport.com/23ny1.html

81 posted on 10/28/2009 12:30:49 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: neverdem

He just can’t give it up, can he? How the he** does he figure voting for the most conservative is a vote for Pelosi? Voting for scuzziface is the vote for Pelosi.


82 posted on 10/28/2009 12:32:38 PM PDT by calex59 (We want our constitution back, and we will get it back.)
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To: neverdem
All I remember about the "Newt" is that he made a contract with the American people and then his brain went below his belt.

Almost all of the people swept into office who signed that contract broke it and their word within a short period of time and then the "Newt" ran off and left us high and dry to chase a few bucks and his new bride.

Sad because he had good ideas but he was just another glib salesman with no depth.

He probably fears his Party network being cast into irrelevance along with himself.

83 posted on 10/28/2009 12:33:03 PM PDT by Dr.Syn
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In 1994 conservatives won a major victory. The Clinton's had reneged on their campaign promises and had raised taxes and were promoting a leftist, big government agenda. Americans rejected the Democrats and gave an overwhelming victory to the Republicans. As Speaker of the House Gingrich had and unprecedented opportunity to stand up for the American people and make significant changes to government.
Instead Gingrich made it all about himself. He continually let his vanity interfere with conservative principles and the Washington establishment helped him self-destruct. His antics made the shallow and egotistical Clinton actually seem reasonable. Soon he was forced to resign his position and the hard fought conservative victories were reversed and Clinton won in 1996.
Lately Gingrich has made himself an attention whore appearing with Sharpton and Pelosi and trying to get the MSM to promote him. He brags about how he is an expert on everything and a true Conservative. Now he has decided to back an Acorn sponsored leftist candidate who has nothing but contempt for conservative values and to attack real conservatives. He should just go away.
84 posted on 10/28/2009 12:34:01 PM PDT by detective
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To: neverdem

Know what, Newt? This kind of arrogant condescending talking down only works on ignorant brainwashed RATS. You’re dealing with conservatives and we don’t fall for the propaganda you’re pushing. So STFU!


85 posted on 10/28/2009 12:34:14 PM PDT by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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Gingrich is done. He is not even an elder statesman anymore. He is just an old Republican guard retired. There will be many more! We live in a new day and a new age. NO MORE RINOS!


87 posted on 10/28/2009 12:35:30 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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