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How Can Glenn Beck Be Right on So Much and Yet Still Believe the book of Mormon? (serious question)

Posted on 10/26/2009 7:51:02 AM PDT by Scythian

I'm a huge Beck fan, in fact I'm listening right now here

http://www.ksfa860.com/common/gap_streamer.php

but something really confuses me. It takes the ability to use real critical thinking to know what Beck (and most of us know about the state of the country and where we are heading). That is, we have the ability to discover the truth no matter how much the media or conventional wisdom try to hide it. Yet on Mormonism, Beck is cleary wrong. Any Christian knows that the book or momonism is severely flawed and that Joseph Smith was no prophet. How can Beck cut through all the chaff of what is going on in our world and come to the truth and yet believe the writings of Joseph Smith? It doesn't make sense? I'm not saying he's up to something secret, not by any means, it's just that he's so right about so many things and completely wrong on the most important thing. Now, he just said on the air that he believes Jesus is the Savior of the world and that he is Mormon.

I also think that because he is Mormon he is not attacked near as much if he was a Evangelical Bible only believer. Anyway, am I nutz or does Beck being a Mormon seem bizarre?


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To: Dan(9698)

I agree. Mitt is a little too smooth for me and I am a Mormon. But, I would rather have him than O’Zero in the WH. I would have liked the evangelicals that seem to hate us so much to have helped more with Prop 8. The Catholics in our area did help, but the evangelicals are so splintered that they could not form a coherent front. It is not their fault really. They come in all shades of theology.


201 posted on 10/26/2009 9:49:06 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Erik Latranyi; Scythian
You obviously look down on Mormons because you think they are wrong in their beliefs....but isn’t that what all religions believe? Every religion believes it follows the true teachings of God and follows in His principles.

But not all religions go so far as to specifically label IN THEIR 'SCRIPTURES' that the rest of God-believers are apostates...that the rest are 100% wrong in their creeds...and that the rest are 100% full of "corrupt" professing believers. Even if opinions are exchanged, I don't see new books in the New Testament embedding those opinions as "scripture." (That can't be said about Mormonism's very founding vision -- which does all of the above -- see Joseph Smith vv. 18-20 in the Pearl of Great Price)

202 posted on 10/26/2009 9:50:17 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Scythian

Why can you be such a moron who cares... Last Time I looked we still live in America ( which is changing before us}. Glenn is a good guy. Don’t attack him for something so stupid...


203 posted on 10/26/2009 9:50:38 AM PDT by crazydad
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To: colorcountry

Your proper Panguitch linguistic perfection is showing.

The thing that bothers me about sir Glenn is that wild look he gets in his eyes as he goes off. Reminds me of an overdone seminary teacher or of a fundamentalist idiot trying to look like a reincarnated JS or BY.

OBEY ME!


204 posted on 10/26/2009 9:52:42 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Where Maynard Dixon's "Cloud World" originated)
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To: Tenacious 1; Scythian
Who are you to suggest that one faith is more right than another? I am Christian (Catholic). I don't pass judgment on anyone's faith.

Except you just did. (Scythian's) As in, who are you to...

We see two-faced posts here all the time in FReeperland. (I just rarely see them in back-to-back sentences)

205 posted on 10/26/2009 9:53:26 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Puppage
What do his religious convictions have to do with anything?

Classic just like "What does Bill Clinton's personal life have to do with his ability to be a good president?"

206 posted on 10/26/2009 9:54:44 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Love your neighbor as you love yourself.)
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To: BelegStrongbow

In my opinion, you are splitting hairs.

I do see that it is a “relative observation”, but God created Adam and Eve as perfect (but with the free will to ruin it), and when God raises everyone*, they will live forever with Him. They will be as gods for all practical purposes, although not the same as God, e.g., all-powerful.

If the Mormons are saying that their god-like personages will be equal to God, then of course that is logically ridiculous. One all-powerful God, logically, is all that is possible in God’s Universe.


207 posted on 10/26/2009 9:55:58 AM PDT by Nabber
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To: Dan(9698)
How about --- maybe he is right and you are wrong?

I am sure he is wrong, you can know for sure Beck is wrong too and so can anybody ...

See HERE

My question was merely how can he believe in this? He brought up today that he was a Mormon, so I asked a logical question
208 posted on 10/26/2009 9:56:32 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: DungeonMaster
Classic just like "What does Bill Clinton's personal life have to do with his ability to be a good president?"

Funny, I didn't know Beck was president. This while time I thought he was just a news commentator.

209 posted on 10/26/2009 9:58:06 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Utah Binger

It frightens me too.

The foundational belief of a Mormon.... A fourteen year old had a vision and saw a physical God the Father and His physical son Jesus Christ (two separate beings) and said all other religions were false and that said boy was the only one chosen of God to restore Christianity to earth since it had all become corrupted and removed from earth shortly after the original apostles died. This boy grew up, took 33 women to be his wives (some of them married already to other men) and he was eventually executed to his own visions of granduer.

To believe Mormonism, Beck must believe this claim. While he’s free to believe whatever the heck he chooses, we too are free to wonder what is wrong with his rational mind.


210 posted on 10/26/2009 9:58:09 AM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: greyfoxx39
[Beck] he does not apply his intellect to his faith

Faith is not something to reason with, for or against.

The essence of faith is that it is *not* reasoned.

211 posted on 10/26/2009 9:58:52 AM PDT by Tax Government (Mighty nuts from tiny Acorns grow.)
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To: Puppage; All
...his religion should have nothing to do with anything. Besides, who are WE to say what he believes is NOT the truth? Seems a bit ignorant to think otherwise, IMHO.

So, the jist of several comments we see on this thread is that Glenn should continue to attack the falsehoods of the liberals...the falsehoods of the White House...the falsehoods of the MSM...the falsehoods of the Democrats...but on anything faith-wise, there's no such thing as truth & falsehood...Glenn can critique away on the former items mentioned above, but is teflon to critiques about truth beyond that???

212 posted on 10/26/2009 9:59:23 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Who are you to suggest that one faith is more right than another? I am Christian (Catholic). I don't pass judgment on anyone's faith.

I do make judgements on what is truth and what is fiction based on sound evidence ...
213 posted on 10/26/2009 10:00:43 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Tax Government

Faith is willed, to the extent that a human can will anything. (There might be corp of people standing ready to say that God does not grant us the power to do anything voluntary, even to will to believe in him. To them, I say, “”. (Nothing.))


214 posted on 10/26/2009 10:00:53 AM PDT by Tax Government (Mighty nuts from tiny Acorns grow.)
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To: Tax Government
Faith is not something to reason with, for or against. The essence of faith is that it is *not* reasoned.

Unless there is overwhelming physical evidence that a faith is not true ...
215 posted on 10/26/2009 10:02:37 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Colofornian
Glenn can critique away on the former items mentioned above, but is teflon to critiques about truth beyond that??

When he critiques other religions as being false & his the only true way, you absolutely every right to go after him on it, in fact I would happily join that discussion.

Until then, IMHO, his religious convictions don't matter to me in the least.

216 posted on 10/26/2009 10:03:20 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark; newgeezer
I could care less if you worship a Pepsi can as long as you’re a decent, respectable, productive citizen.

I care. I'm also free to be suspicious of pepsi worshipers.

217 posted on 10/26/2009 10:05:49 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Love your neighbor as you love yourself.)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
STOP THE CATFIGHT FOR A MINUTE

All: Please retract your claws long enough to answer this question.

Who among you celebrates faith -- man's ability to believe in things unseen and unprovable? Who does not?

218 posted on 10/26/2009 10:06:01 AM PDT by Tax Government (Mighty nuts from tiny Acorns grow.)
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To: Utah Binger
The thing that bothers me about sir Glenn is that wild look he gets in his eyes as he goes off.

That bothers me too, along with the emotionalism. Although Glenn has done some very great work, these actions of his remind me of the "dry drunk".

What is the dry drunk syndrome? "Dry drunk" traits consist of:

        * Exaggerated self-importance and pomposity
        * Grandiose behavior
        * A rigid, judgmental outlook
        * Impatience
        * Childish behavior
        * Irresponsible behavior
        * Irrational rationalization
        * Projection
        * Overreaction

IMO, you can see more of the "true" Glenn in interviews on the O'Reilly show. He sometimes seems to be a ticking time bomb.

219 posted on 10/26/2009 10:06:30 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObaMugabe is turning this country into another Zimbabwe as fast as he can with MEDIA'S help.)
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To: colorcountry
I recently returned to the writings of Bob McCue

I wish all intelligent family and friends in the church would pay attention to what he has to say. His honesty about the sorrow he felt when he finally had the courage to admit that he had been too close to the process. His letter to Holland was powerful

220 posted on 10/26/2009 10:06:38 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Where Maynard Dixon's "Cloud World" originated)
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