That would Franklin Roosevelt. Truman was often photographed taking his morning walk *outside* the White House compound.
Here's another, circa '45, of him locomoting on his own.
Posted on 10/26/2009 3:42:44 AM PDT by jay099
Here is a list of government and civilian websites that require a long form birth certificate.
1.) Snyder County, PA requires a long form birth certificate to obtain a US passport for anyone 15 years of age or younger:
"Even with a previous passport - a LONG form birth certificate is required..."
http://www.snydercounty.org/snyder/cwp/view.asp?a=730&Q=408544
2.) In the state of Massachusetts, a long form birth certificate is required to obtain a passport:
"A long form birth certificate is required for obtaining a passport and for travel outside the country."
http://www.dighton-ma.gov/Public_Documents/DightonMA_Clerk/clerk?textPage=1
3.) Once again, the state of Massachusetts requires a long for birth certificate for "proof of citizenship":
"If you were born in the United States, then a LONG FORM birth certificate is required – the long form must be certified with a raised seal (no photocopies)."
http://www.cityofmelrose.org/departments/assessing.htm
4.) In the state of Massachusetts, a long long for birth certificate is required in certain adoption cases:
"However, if grandchild is a dependent of a dependent under age 19, copy of grandchild’s certified (Long Form) birth certificate is required."
http://www.townofmarshfield.org/public_documents/MarshfieldMA_HR/PCHG%20Rules.pdf
5.) In Laredo, Texas a long for birth certificate is required for passport or immigration purposes:
"The long form Birth Certificate is required for PASSPORT or IMMIGRATION purposes."
http://www.laredotexas.gov/health/Birth%20-%20Death%20Application%20Final%20English%20%20Spanish%20Revised%20January%202009.pdf
6.) Presenting a short form birth certificate to obtain health insurance at IMS Health is "not acceptable":
"Photocopy of dependent's birth certificate. Must be a complete birth certificate which includes both parents' names; short form birth certificate is not acceptable."
http://staging.dakotagrp.com/3756_IMS_enrollment_guide_web/enroll/
7.) The only type of birth certificate that is acceptable by the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control is a long form birth certificate.
"The only type of birth certificate acceptable for travel is a birth certificate long form."
"A short form certification or birth card (cannot be used for travel)."
http://www.scdhec.gov/administration/vr/birth.htm
8.) And last of all, to play little league in San Dimas, California, you must present a (yep, you guessed it) long form birth certificate. An abstract, like Obama's COLB, is "not acceptable".
"Supply a certified birth record and proof of residence. Abstract birth certificate is Not acceptable."
http://www.leaguelineup.com/sdlittleleague/files/Registration%20Flyer%202008.pdf
So, if a short form birth certificate is not sufficient evidence of citizenship in any of these cases, then why would it be sufficient to be President of the United States?
Obama has not proved that he is a Natural Born Citizen. He is not Constitutionally qualified to be President.
Obama has not proved that he is a Natural Born Citizen. He is not Constitutionally qualified to be President.
Cheney didn’t ask if there were any objections as the Constitution requires, Pelosi cut him off by starting the cheerleading.
Yes they have, but they would issue a certified copy of the original long form upon special request, until early last summer that is. The States Own Hawaiian Lands Program website told how to get the "long form", again until mid summer.
That would Franklin Roosevelt. Truman was often photographed taking his morning walk *outside* the White House compound.
Here's another, circa '45, of him locomoting on his own.
And if folks had known he was born in Kenya, or anywhere else outside the US, he likely would not have been elected at all either.
But you seem to have a problem with the concept of "eligible". He either is, or he is not. His Daddy could have been a visiting Ukrainian, and he born in Odessa, the situation would be the same. It has Zero to do with the color of his skin.
And about him being "African-American": Technically he is, but so is Terressa Hines Kerry. So what? He's not the usual descendant of slaves, or of Caribbean immigrants from a couple of generations ago. He did not grow up in the "Black Community". He had no "African-American" ancestors. His skin may be chocolate, but his upbringing was by white Kansans, and an Indonesian stepfather (for a few years). He looks more like his maternal grandfather than anyone else.
He is NOT, by his own admission, a Natural Born Citizen, because he does not have two citizens parents, even if he'd been born in Independence Hall in Philadelphia.
When asked by a real "African American" why I called Obama "Black", I said, because that is what he calls himself. He could be green for all I care about that. He's certainly not as "Black" as the guy who asked that question, who in turn is merely dark chocolate colored, in comparison to a college friend from Nigeria, who was obsidiean, and very good guy too.
Assuming that they were known before hand.
Folks got taken to the woodshed for mentioning that his middle name is Hussien before the election. It's no wonder that no one in the MSM brought out the fact that just having a non citizen father is enough to make one not "natural born".
But the point was, an election cannot overturn the Constitution. It cannot make an ineligible person magically eligible. That's a yes or no question, not subject to majority opinion.
Oooooops.
Thanks...
"What exactly do you mean? I've never heard anything about a drinking problem."
LOL!
It seems a severe charge, and I’d like a source for it.
Cheney didn’t ask if there were any objections as the Constitution requires, Pelosi cut him off by starting the cheerleading.
But actually *being* a natural born citizen is mentioned and is an absolute requirement. The birth certificate is just part of the means of proving or disproving the assertion of natural born citizenship.
Only in part. I discovered the change to the Home Lands program website before I read of it on WND.
No, you have it backwards. 3 USC 15 says, “the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any.” http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/3/usc_sec_03_00000015——000-.html
He asks. There are no circumstances when he doesn’t.
The birth-certificater's 'means' of trying to cause trouble, but it's not in the constitution contrary to birth-certificater's daily claims. I bet many past presidents didn't have birth certificates at all. I know my aunt never found hers, it was a mystery all her life which was in the USA. Maybe you would send her out on a raft with sharks. Oh no, she is republican. If she were elected you would throw your high horse Constitution argument in the trash (where it belongs anyway) and be preaching ‘democracy’ and democratic process and elections.
Your argument is illogical. You’re suggesting that candidates for president should not have to show their birth certificate because many past presidents didn’t have birth certificates? Why don’t you try that argument today. If you live in California, try applying for a US passport and tell them that you should not have to show your long form birth certificate (as is required in California) because people generations ago didn’t have birth certificates and yet they could still get passports. Or when your child signs up for little league in San Dimas, just tell them that your child shouldn’t have to show their birth certificate because a hundred years ago hardly any one had a birth certificate and they could still play sports.
Logic tells a person that if you’re required to prove something, you should also be required to provide the best evidence. Today, a birth certificate is the best evidence of a person’s birth and in the special case of Obama, a person without a single parent who could legally confer US citizenship, it is an absolute necessity in proving not only that he’s a natural born citizen, but that he’s even a citizen at all!
No, I am not arguing that. I am arguing that he was already elected president 2008 (not a candidate AS you suggest) in another humiliating defeat for republican party. So making up a requirement (long form) that does not presently exist as a requirement to NULL and VOID an election, and claiming the that requirement is in ‘the constitution’ when it isn't, and claiming you are only defending ‘the constitution’ as if you are the only one that cares about the constitution, is nonsense that everyone sees through.
Now if you somehow made the case BEFORE the election, and it was effective, and you actually had some proof in hand, it might have been different
sickoflibs, nothing personal, but I would never do business with you. You’re interested in what is technically required by the letter, but oblivious to what is the right thing to do according to the spirit of the law. Would you do me out of whatever you could get away with? That’s what Barry has done to the country. He has a moral obligation to be open and honest with the people.
No, you have it backwards. 3 USC 15 says, “the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any.” http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/3/usc_sec_03_00000015——000-.html
He asks. There are no circumstances when he doesn’t.
There was indeed a circumstance when the Vice President didn’t ask for objections to certification of the Electoral College vote, that circumstance was on January 8, 2009.
To date there have been no legal challenges to the Electoral College vote having been improperly certified in violation of the US Code of Laws under Title 3/Chapter 1/Section 15.
Interesting.
Before the primaries we made the case.
Trolls like you said it wasn't the right time because he wasn't actually his party's candidate.
Before the main election we made the case.
Trolls like you said it wasn't the right time because he wasn't actually the president elect.
Before the electoral college vote we made the case.
Trolls like you said it wasn't the right time because he hadn't actually been elected until the electoral college said so.
Before the congress accepted the electoral college vote we made the case.
Trolls like you said it wasn't the right time because he hadn't actually been approved until the congress accepted the electoral college vote.
Before was sworn in we made the case.
Trolls like you said it wasn't the right time because he hadn't actually violated the constitution until he became president.
Now that he is president, trolls like you say it's too late, you should have said something sooner!
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