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Environment a casualty of immigration war (Good read, long)
The Washington Times ^ | October 25, 2009 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 10/24/2009 2:09:33 PM PDT by jazusamo

BUENOS AIRES N.W.R., Arizona | Michael M. Hawkes, manager of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge, reaches across his desk and pulls out a homemade blue-and-red bumper sticker that reads, "Littering is always a crime."

It turns out that here on the U.S.-Mexico border, even that is a controversial statement — because it's aimed at the humanitarian groups that drop gallon jugs of water on public lands to help illegal immigrants crossing the rugged borderlands.

Mr. Hawkes says dealing with those groups now takes up most of his time, and it only builds on top of the pile of other pressures — an army of illegal immigrants and drug smugglers, some of them armed, facing off against the U.S. Border Patrol — that have transformed his wildlife sanctuary into ground zero for the nation's immigration wars.

Situated in the middle of southern Arizona, Buenos Aires is among the hardest-hit. But the same story is repeated across the U.S.-Mexico border on refuges, Indian reservations, national forests and the rest of the federal lands that make up 40 percent of the boundary between the two countries.

The clear losers in the clash are the land, and the plants and animals that live on the edge in this beautiful but precarious environment — innocent bystanders caught up in an escalating, seemingly endless war between the immigrants, smugglers and the drug cartels and the authorities charged with catching them.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: amnesty; arizona; destruction; endangeredspeciesact; environment; illegalimmigrants; immigration
"Tell me, which is doing more damage to the environment: the fence or the people coming through, the trails, the litter, the water bottles?"

Dept. of Interior, EPA and enviros are a huge hindrance to our Border Patrol in protecting our borders.

1 posted on 10/24/2009 2:09:34 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: AuntB

Ping!


2 posted on 10/24/2009 2:10:34 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: All
Please bump the Freepathon and donate if you haven’t done so!

3 posted on 10/24/2009 2:11:15 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Illegals vs the enviros... Whats a leftist to do? LOL


4 posted on 10/24/2009 2:14:26 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: jazusamo

Natural protected areas have been compromised by illegal traffic, and it’s been this way for a long time. If we don’t want to enforce our borders we should just declare them open so we can save time, money and resources and conserve the land by different methods. This is like the “war on drugs” - we have rules we won’t enforce and then seem surprised that so many people don’t respect the law.


5 posted on 10/24/2009 2:16:31 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: icwhatudo

Arm the enviros and let them face off with the drug cartels. :-)


6 posted on 10/24/2009 2:17:29 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: icwhatudo

“Illegals vs the enviros... Whats a leftist to do?”

The answer is “whatever hurts western Christian civilization most” - every time. So in this case, they’ll favor illegals.


7 posted on 10/24/2009 2:51:27 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: jazusamo

I’d say the use of our resources, landfills, trashed out neighborhoods, screwed up public schools, the jails an so on . . .polluting automobiles, trash and furniture strewn along the highways . .

They do lots of environmental damage. Conservatives should’ve been pointing out the hypocrisy ages ago. The more we let in the more farmland paved over, the more pollution, the more trash, the more “CO2” emissions. Illegals take far more out of the system then all the individual recycling could ever accomplish.


8 posted on 10/24/2009 3:31:58 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: jazusamo

Oh yeah? Well he’s a racist!

- well thought out liberal response


9 posted on 10/24/2009 4:01:51 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: jazusamo

Like dumping a pile of red ants onto another pile of black ants. They will kill each other off pretty quickly.


10 posted on 10/24/2009 4:07:29 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: jazusamo

The peopel(Mexicans) coming north, thats who is doing the damage. Stuipd, selfish illerates don’t know or care about ‘’the enviorment’’, they only give a damn about themselves. Laws, the language, our sovereignty and the enviorment be damned. I’m sick of this happening to our country. No other group of immigrants do this coming here.


11 posted on 10/24/2009 5:56:16 PM PDT by JoeMac ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!'' Popeye The SailorMan)
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To: JoeMac

Would help if I learned to spell. meant’’ illiterates’’.


12 posted on 10/24/2009 5:57:53 PM PDT by JoeMac ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!'' Popeye The SailorMan)
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To: jazusamo; All; blackie; La Lydia; rabscuttle385; pissant; stephenjohnbanker; brushcop; Eaker; ...

Thanks for the ping, jaz.

“The clear losers in the clash are the land, and the plants and animals that live on the edge in this beautiful but precarious environment —”

Indeed...not to mention the damage to the interior...like 88,000 burned in California this summer by Mexican Drug cartels...and the ones we don’t know about.

And where are the enviromentals? Taking advantage of the poorly written ESA whereby their lawyers who run these schemes can collect atty. fees from the taxpayer by suing the government to protect listed ‘endangered species’...from farmers, private land owners...NEVER the illegal alien.

But WE should be using the same statute, sue the government for habitat of those very endangered species (spotted owl in the La Brea fire & much more) being destroyed because they refuse to enforce our borders to stop it. And by every precedent set, we would win.

See:
Taxes fund environmental suits - Environmental law firms reap billions in fees to fund lawsuits
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2365392/posts


13 posted on 10/24/2009 8:42:32 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: A_Former_Democrat; All

“I’d say the use of our resources, landfills, trashed out neighborhoods, screwed up public schools, the jails an so on . . .polluting automobiles, trash and furniture strewn along the highways . .”

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AMNESTY....What does 20 million people actually look like?
Do you realize if this AMNESTY happens we are in effect creating the equivilent of adding over 17 more states to this country? And that’s not even considering the chain migration that is in every amnesty bill or the millions of illegal alien anchor babies intent on carrying out the terror of their Mexican drug cartels.

Please look at what giving amnesty to as many as 20,000,000 illegal alien foreign nationals actually represents. More than the population and infrastructure of 16 states and DC!
(see map)

According to the 2000 census, 18,785,867 is the total populations combined of Wyoming, Dist. of Columbia, Vermont, Alaska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Delaware, Montana, Rhode Island, Hawaii, New Hampshire, Maine, Idaho, Nebraska, West Virginia, New Mexico and Nevada.
THINK about that! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=what+does+amnesty+look+like


14 posted on 10/24/2009 8:52:43 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

A very sad state of affairs!!


15 posted on 10/25/2009 9:02:11 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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