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Top Republicans jump ship in NY-23 (Santorum joins Palin, Bachmann, Thompson, Armey, Forbes)
Yahoo ^ | 10/23/09 | Andy Barr

Posted on 10/24/2009 4:19:43 AM PDT by Libloather

Top Republicans jump ship in NY-23
Andy Barr – Fri Oct 23, 7:12 pm ET

Some of the most prominent names in national Republican Party politics are lining up against the GOP nominee in a key upstate New York House special election, the latest being former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, who weighed in Friday.

In endorsing Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman in the Nov. 3 contest, Santorum joined former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, Minnesota Rep. Michelle Bachmann, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson, and former presidential candidate Steve Forbes, all of whom announced their backing for the conservative third-party candidate this week.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty suggested Friday that he might be the next well-known Republican to break with the party establishment and support Hoffman. When asked about the race Friday during an interview with ABC, he expressed frustration with GOP nominee Dede Scozzafava and said he will “probably” endorse in the race.

Scozzafava, a state assemblywoman who supports gay marriage, abortion rights and has a close relationship with leading labor officials in her region, has been the target of sustained criticism from conservatives who claim that she is so liberal that they cannot in good conscience support her candidacy. As evidence, they point to her unofficial endorsement from the leading liberal blog Daily Kos.

While Scozzafava can point to many other prominent conservatives who support her bid—including former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Republican leaders on Capitol Hill—this week’s surge of leading conservatives to Hoffman’s camp is a troubling sign for her campaign and the national GOP establishment since several of the recent Hoffman endorsers have significant followings and represent the most energetic part of the Republican base.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: diablo; dialbo; elections; healthcare; hoffman; military; norinos; ny2009; ny23; obama; palin; rinos; veterans
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To: NeoCaveman
One top Republican official in Washington said that many within the party’s establishment are worried by the support Hoffman has been able to attract, but don’t believe it’s indicative of any broader party fissures.

Just proves there are fools all over Washington, I have told them repeatedly when they called looking for money, and now I refuse to answer the phone when they call......they can ignore us at their own peril.

81 posted on 10/24/2009 8:20:59 AM PDT by tioga
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To: muawiyah

Why would Newt jump ship? Why do people assume he is conservative, because he said so 15 years ago? The broken promises of 94 have killed his party, and his global warming and pragmatic schtick scream of country club bluebloods. Unfortunately, Georgians have done a pretty poor job of sending Conservatives to DC with the senators. Maybe they are worried Atlanta will outvote them, but it is pitiful.

And where Im from (Tx) were doing just as bad with Kay “Ill vote woman anything before Ill vote conservative and I wanna be guvner” Bailey Hutchinson and Big Jon “establishment” Cornyn.

Why do the lib states get lib senators, but our conservative states like SC, Ga, Tx, Ut, Mt, Az...get these pansies?


82 posted on 10/24/2009 8:21:15 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: paguch

“Is Newt a true conservative? He jumped on the global warming train.”

He also joined the most open border advocates (Squatter Support Squad) in writing a letter to the WSJ endorsing McCain’s amnesty a few years back, while condemning conservatives who want enforcement.

[snip]” Other voices, also claiming to be conservative, propose a very different approach. They suggest we seal the border or radically cut back on the number of foreigners we admit. Some talk of using military means; others would go so far as to try to deport the 8 million to 10 million illegal immigrants already here. These suggestions can sound appealing, particularly in a border state like Arizona. But they aren’t solutions–they’re wishful thinking. How, exactly, would we as a nation seal our borders, and how would we man our economy if we did? Who would labor in the fields to get our crops out of the ground? Who would take the low-paying jobs in our hotels and hospitals?....“Clinging To The Status Quo .. Is Neither Conservative Nor Principled,” And “It Has Become Clear That The Only Viable Approach To Reform” Combines Enforcement With Increased Legal Immigration While Addressing “Those Already Here In The U.S.” “ Newt Gingrich et al, Op-Ed, “Welcome To America,” The Wall Street Journal, 2/6/04)


83 posted on 10/24/2009 8:21:44 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: tioga

They still don’t hear us.

We’ll need to change this :)


84 posted on 10/24/2009 8:22:50 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Doug Hoffman for Congress NY-23)
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To: tioga

Thats like when Sarah Palin “tweeted” for thousands upon thousands of followers to tune into the Glen Beck show for some shows on his czars (including about Van Jones), I think Beck suddenly soared in viewership and topped over two million viewers that subsequent day, adding on hundreds of thousands of additional viewers with the flick of a switch. If Sarah Palin can get to New York within the next 8 days and appear with Doug, it will be an absolute freaking barn burner. Eagles up.


85 posted on 10/24/2009 8:27:48 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Election Nite 2010: The Difference beween "Yeahhh! We Did It!!!" and "Oh well. See you in the camps")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Yeah, Sarah is the only one who creates passion in the voters and opens their tight wallets.........no one can deny that.


86 posted on 10/24/2009 8:32:51 AM PDT by tioga
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To: AuntB

Newt cares about Newt and his own success. He’d run for president in a third party if he thought he could win. The man sold us out for a sexual fling. I don’t trust him.


87 posted on 10/24/2009 8:34:26 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Libloather

What we’ve got here is a good old fashioned brouhaha.


88 posted on 10/24/2009 8:36:42 AM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Man50D
Palin will have to leave the increasingly socialist Republicrat party if she is to have any chance of advancing the Conservative cause.

That's your opinion.

Palin will have to transform the Republican party, a party with 60 million voters who pulled the lever for it during the last presidential election, if she has any chance of advancing the conservative cause.

It's a lot easier to kick out a few RINOS than it is easier to migrate 60 million voters.

89 posted on 10/24/2009 8:38:56 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: paguch

Newt is like the other Republican elites. He’s an opportunist who only listens to consultants, not the people.


90 posted on 10/24/2009 8:41:11 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: tioga
tioga wrote:
The article states that after Palin’s endorsement he got $100,000 in endorsements with in days....pretty powerful stuff. That’s lots of little “republicans” who listen to her and opened their wallets.
A lot of us “little republicans” have been supporting Hoffman already. In the seven days before Palin’s endorsement, Hoffman raised $210,000 from his web site alone. The word has been spreading on forums like FreeRepublic as well as conservative blogs everywhere.

But Sarah Palin’s endorsement did help a lot. I think I saw $116,000 for Friday fundraising. I’m not sure if that includes anything from SarahPAC or if that is just individual donors on Friday.


From the desk of
cc2k:
I support Doug Hoffman for Congress (PayPal).

Please, spread the word about this important election on November 3, 2009 in New York’s 23rd congressional district.

91 posted on 10/24/2009 8:41:42 AM PDT by cc2k (I have donated to Doug Hoffman, have you? [check my recent reply posts])
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I almost wish we had a Parliamentary style government with coalition governments and national elections whenever support falls too much for the Prime Minister.

With our system it seems that two dominant parties is the stable situation.

Right now it seems we almost need two new parties that represent what is happening. It seems the left is becoming more extremely left to the point of being Marxists. And the right is only trying to maintain some conservative principles on national defense.

The left has managed over a course of 3 decades to move the Democrat Party to a socialist party. The Republican Party has aligned itself with big business and socialism lite with their only saving grace being stronger on defense.

There are people who identify as Democrats that would never vote Republican or Conservative but would vote for a party with a broader appeal for limited government and adherence to the Constitution and control of the borders.

I doubt we have time to morph the existing Republican elite. A National Conservative party will split the opposition to the socialists and guarantee their victory.

Not sure what the answer is to this situation.

I am suggesting a new party that will fill the void. And eventually replace the moribund Republican party.


92 posted on 10/24/2009 9:06:20 AM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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To: Libloather

What I take from this:
1. Gov. Palin leads the way.
2. Newt is putting the finishing touches on his Political suicide.
3. The Conservatives in the GOP are starting to show some azz!


93 posted on 10/24/2009 9:07:22 AM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I second that. Sarah could be just what the doctor ordered.

As long as the doctor isn't Joselyn Elder...even though I also like that singer/guitarist Eric Clapner - esp his song "After 11pm".

94 posted on 10/24/2009 9:11:19 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Libloather
From the New York State Republican Committee web site:

“For the first time since the 19th century, there are no statewide Republican elected officials in New York right now, and for the first time since 1935, the Republicans don’t control either house of the state Legislature.”

GEE, I wonder WHY? Could it be the elephant in the room has forgotten his conservative roots because he has actually become a RINO instead?

YOU ARE NOW IRRELEVANT! You are FIRED! Voted OFF! & CUT OFF. (Don't send these CLOWNS (Republican Party) a DIME). Kick them where it hurts! (Do RINOs even have testicles?)

We (Conservatives) have the REAL power. Without us the establishment Republicans (RINOs)are powerless. What can they win without us? NOTHING! Take back your party or start a new one. The status quo is no longer an option.

95 posted on 10/24/2009 9:15:17 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: FreeReign
It's a lot easier to kick out a few RINOS than it is easier to migrate 60 million voters.

If it's so easy then why wasn't it done years a go when there was less socialism in the party than there is today?
96 posted on 10/24/2009 9:20:57 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: fightinJAG

“Even if Hoffman loses, this will have a powerful and positive effect on the GOP or the party that will develop to replace to GOP.”

Exactly...it’s the conservative side sending a shot to the party apparatus that’s telling them “We ain’t gonna take it!”

There’s really nothing to lose on this particular election. If the dem wins, the dem will side with the dems. If the Republican wins, she’s gonna side with the dems. If Hoffman wins, we get another conservative vote in congress, and no matter what, the battle lines become clearer with a message is sent to the country club GOP that selected a candidate like this.


97 posted on 10/24/2009 9:24:28 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Without the Constitution, there is no America!)
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To: Right Wing Assault
a number of top Republicans are warning that undercutting their own nominee sets a bad precedent before heading into the consequential 2010 midterm election

. . . patriotic citizens are warning that undercutting their principles sets a bad precedent before heading into elections

98 posted on 10/24/2009 9:33:09 AM PDT by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: maggief
This group is DOA. Rush calls it a “scam”.

This is just MY OPINION of these Republicans

Governor Haley Barbour: always liked him,
Governor Jeb Bush: no more Bush's. He let Terry Schiavo die
Governor Bobby Jindal: ????
Senator John McCain: Needs no comment
Governor Mitt Romney: RINO
John Boehner: Has been sounding good lately, BUT endorsed Liberal Republican Dede Scuzzyfarter in NY
Eric Cantor: Don't know about him
Mike Pence: Talks a good game, but I am always nervous about someone who looks like they just stepped out of the hair salon. Not one hair out of place or a mm too long.
Cathy McMorris Rodgers: Don't know anything about her
John Carter: Don't know anything about him
Pete Sessions: always liked him, but why is he on this list?
David Dreier: Used to like him, but not sure anymore
Kevin McCarthy: Don't know anything about him
Roy Blunt: not sure. Too establishment.

Mitch McConnell: Weak
Jon Kyl: Why are you on this list?
Lamar Alexander: Why are you on this list?
John Ensign: Sorry to say it, but U R History. Letch
John Cornyn: fake Conservative.
John Thune: I like him, why are you on this list?
Kay Bailey Hutchison: Queen of the RINOs

Newtr Gingrich: I used to LOVE Newt. It makes me sad to call him a traitor to Conservatives, but he is one.

99 posted on 10/24/2009 9:48:51 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: faucetman

“Traitor” that is.


100 posted on 10/24/2009 9:52:00 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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