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What Do Americans Believe About Creationism and Evolution?</
john in springfield | 10/23/2009 | jis (vanity)

Posted on 10/23/2009 8:18:13 PM PDT by john in springfield

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To: john in springfield
I don't converse with anyone who wants to ridicule and heckle me personally or wants to bait me with crazy stuff.
That's why I don't reply to certain ones.

And no, I don't think it's a reflection of Christian behavior. And I don't justify it. From myself or anyone else. Nor do I wish to give advice other than in the general, which I have already.

And at the end of the day I turn off the machine and tomorrow's another day.

181 posted on 10/25/2009 6:49:49 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Agamemnon

Why the hate and pompousness?


182 posted on 10/25/2009 6:53:16 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: john in springfield; count-your-change; Agamemnon

Or how about this little gem from the evo-atheist sympathizer who likes to refer to genuine Christians on FR as “unChristian” (can anyone say DC retread!):

“I think that generally, atheists think more than theists think. But I will certainly grant you that MANY atheists don’t think any more than the non-thinking theists do.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2139264/posts?page=74#74


183 posted on 10/25/2009 6:56:07 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: xcamel
Is CW implying all they need is more (in numbers) ignorant people?

Who is 'they'?

184 posted on 10/25/2009 6:57:46 PM PDT by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts
Because I maintain:

If you really want to get at truth, you always have to look at both sides.

...I am supposedly "an AIDS alarmist, a Flu alarmist, an evo-atheist sympathizer," and I also "came here to shill for the global warming alarmists as well?"

Really?

And here I thought that listening to both sides of a matter before judging was only wisdom. Hmm.

He who answers before listening — that is his folly and his shame... The first to present his case seems right, till another comes forward and questions him. (Proverbs 18)

By the way, you still have failed to account for your behavior which shames the name of Christ.

185 posted on 10/25/2009 6:59:29 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: john in springfield; count-your-change; Agamemnon

Sorry, I forgot to include the people you pinged for your latest accusation.


186 posted on 10/25/2009 7:00:32 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: john in springfield; count-your-change; Agamemnon

Boy, John in Springfield is the gift that keeps on giving himself away. Check out this little gem from the evo-atheist sympathizer that likes to pose as a Christian to attack genuine Christians (again, can anyone say DC retread!):

“No, given the “finely-tuned nature” of the universe, we would seem to really only have two choices: either the universe was purposefully created (which would have to have been done by an immensely powerful intelligent being — “God” by about any definition), or, if it happened by chance, then there must necessarily exist an essentially infinite number of universes in order to make it possible. The proposition that ours is the only universe, and that it is here by chance, is many, many orders of magnitude too improbable to believe.

Therefore, apparently, if there’s no God, then we have to have an essentially infinite number of universes.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2137325/posts?page=170#170


187 posted on 10/25/2009 7:06:29 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: john in springfield; GodGunsGuts

Wow! I missed a bunch. Apparently, GGGs is trying to shut down any posts that he does not author. His boss must have upped the ante before he gets paid this week.


188 posted on 10/25/2009 7:07:26 PM PDT by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: john in springfield
"And it's a much bigger division the younger you get. In the "55 and older" population, creationists are almost even with evolutionists. But by the time you get down to the "18 to 34" age group, there are nearly three people who believe in evolution for every one who believes in creationism.

In other words, creationists are losing the debate. And whatever your perspective, that is a meaningful bit of data."

While some may find that opinion, and its possibility of being true alarming, I do not. The world is the way the world is, whether God made it that way or not.

And Man's fate, his ultimate shape and reason for being, is now more in his own hands than ever.

As God wills, then, we will go on to feats of glory, or perish in conflict. But we should not seek to say that it is God who forces this behavior on us.

We will assuredly determine our own fate, and we will deserve it.

189 posted on 10/25/2009 7:09:20 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (Obam Government says, "Get used to being poor." / America responds, "Ain't gonna happen.")
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To: GodGunsGuts; count-your-change; Agamemnon
Or how about this little gem from the evo-atheist sympathizer who likes to refer to genuine Christians on FR as “unChristian” (can anyone say DC retread!):

If you behave as a genuine Christian would behave, then I won't point out that you are behaving in an unChristian way. Is that so difficult?

“I think that generally, atheists think more than theists think. But I will certainly grant you that MANY atheists don’t think any more than the non-thinking theists do.”

I didn't say that was an ideal state of affairs, but unfortunately, it still appears to me to be generally true.

If you want things to be different, then do your part to change them. Think. Look at both sides of issues instead of choosing the side you want to be true and then digging up evidence to "prove" it.

Incidentally, your painting me as [long string of slurs] for making the statement, "If you really want to get at truth, you always have to look at both sides," only illustrates the point!

By the way, you have still failed to account for your own behavior, which shames the name of Christ.

190 posted on 10/25/2009 7:12:25 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Boy, John in Springfield is the gift that keeps on giving himself away. Check out this little gem from the evo-atheist sympathizer that likes to pose as a Christian to attack genuine Christians (again, can anyone say DC retread!):

Are you really incapable of recognizing an argument that implies the existence of God? And did you miss the following analysis, or did you just willfully choose to ignore it?

So if there's no God, then there has to be an infinite number of universes. If there is an infinite number of universes, then pretty much anything that CAN happen will happen. Therefore, if it's possible for a God to exist, he probably does.

By the way, you have still failed to account for your own ongoing name-calling and personal attacks upon both Christians and non-Christians alike - which shames the name of Christ.

191 posted on 10/25/2009 7:17:43 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: ColdWater
Apparently, GGGs is trying to shut down any posts that he does not author.

He also seems prepared to turn on whatever fire-hose he can to attempt to discredit anybody who calls him to decent behavior, rather than deal with his own unChristian behavior.

192 posted on 10/25/2009 7:21:57 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: john in springfield
Conservatives have looked at both sides of the global warming issue, and we have concluded it is a sham being pushed by socialist environmentalists to gain control over the global economy. Then there are leftist, evo-atheist sympathizers like yourself, who keep encouraging conservatives to reconsider their position on global warming by continually pointing them to leftist, global warming alarmist sources such as wikipedia.
193 posted on 10/25/2009 7:24:22 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: john in springfield; Buck W.; count-your-change; Agamemnon
How would you know how a Christian is supposed to behave. You won't even claim Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. You are a wolf in sheep's clothing, just like the evo-atheist who likes to masquerade as a Christian (Buck W.) you are so fond of defending. You are an impostor, and I would bet dollars to donuts you a DC retread.
194 posted on 10/25/2009 7:32:24 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Conservatives have looked at both sides of the global warming issue, and we have concluded it is a sham being pushed by socialist environmentalists to gain control over the global economy.

So let me see if I understand you. Because somebody else looked at both sides of the issue, I am prohibited from looking at both sides of the issue for myself, and from encouraging others to do the same?

Then there are leftist, evo-atheist sympathizers like yourself,

Ah... still another personal attack.

Do you understand that the Bible commands us to "do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith?"

And do you understand that your choosing to wantonly and repeatedly attack others (such as when you call me, and others, "leftist, evo-atheist sympathizers" simply because our opinion might differ from yours on a matter not even critical to salvation - do you understand that such behavior on your part brings shame upon the name of Christ?

195 posted on 10/25/2009 7:32:36 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: john in springfield
That would make your god an emergent property of an infinite multiverse. Is that the god you think might possibly exist?
196 posted on 10/25/2009 7:35:02 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Ahh, but the strawberries that’s... that’s where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with... geometric logic... that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I’d have produced that key if they hadn’t of pulled the Caine out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers...


197 posted on 10/25/2009 7:35:33 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: john in springfield; GodGunsGuts
He also seems prepared to turn on whatever fire-hose he can to attempt to discredit anybody who calls him to decent behavior, rather than deal with his own unChristian behavior.

Yes. He has been getting pretty testy lately. Perhaps his boss is putting more pressure on him. Perhaps he should rein it in before he is banned.

198 posted on 10/25/2009 7:36:22 PM PDT by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts
How would you know how a Christian is supposed to behave. You won't even claim Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

I have claimed Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior for more than twenty-five years.

You demand words from me.

I demand some actual Christian behavior from you.

Are you incapable of even the slightest shred of humility or repentance for your actions and words, your ugly and ongoing treatment of others which bring shame upon the Lord that you profess to claim?

199 posted on 10/25/2009 7:36:38 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; john in springfield

If you feel so strongly, you can always hit the abuse button.


200 posted on 10/25/2009 7:38:10 PM PDT by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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