Posted on 10/23/2009 8:53:41 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
Pinellas Park, Florida-- A six year old girl sent to live with her grandparents as a baby is now being evicted from her home, for being too young.
The grandparents, Jimmy and Judie Stottler, live in a Pinellas Park retirement community that doesn't allow children. The Home Owners Association now wants the child removed.
"For some reason, there's a few, just a few who don't want Kimberly. And I just don't get it," said Judie Stottler.
The granddaughter was taken from her home at just six months old after the state discovered her mother was abusing drugs. She's lived with her grandparents against the rules ever since.
The family says they want to move out of the neighborhood, but by the time they put their home up for sale, the housing market crashed.
"They have no more assets to go out and purchase a rental property," said attorney Robert Eckard who is representing the family free of charge. "If they sell the home they can move. If not, they're homeless on the street."
The H-O-A president has been quoted saying he is only trying to enforce the rules. And while some residents argue the rules need to be followed, others suggest a compromise.
Either way, it will be up to a judge to decide what happens to the six year old next.
If the grandparents are unable to sell their home, the granddaughter could be sent to foster care.
That's something the Stollers say they will never let happen.
"They will have to drag me out in handcuffs and tear her from my arms," promises Judie Stoller.
"I'm not putting her out on the streets."
That, I would agree to. Nit-picky rules. No way
I “admit” no such thing. You’re the one making the comparison.
I’d vote for that!! ANd I’m a senior!! King Solomon needed I guess.
i brought that up but people seem to ignore facts that run contrary to their argument.
It’s an old liberal trick. They think that all they have to do is bring out the “children” in the argument—and contracts, laws, everything else be d*mned.
In defense of the children in this case, though, I might suggest that a community where there are more children might be better for them in any event. Retirement communities work both ways—the elderly get their peace and quiet, and the regular communities can allow for a lot more fun for kids.
The grandparents should move, plain and simple.
Here’s a site with more information and a video from NBC news. Those HOA folks don’t take any prisoners! Apparently this isn’t a recent battle- it’s been going on for some time now. Both sides agree the rules have been broken and its a matter of selling the home and moving out. There is mention of the reduction of the asking price, but there is no mention of the HOA blocking the sale at the reduced asking price.
http://www.inquisitr.com/43825/florida-community-wants-to-evict-6-year-old/
Gee, seems to me I commented about the “few” as opposed to your claim I was generalizing to the “all”.
Yes. If you borrow my saw for a week, keep it instead for a year while I don't complain, I still have the right to demand the saw (yes, enforce the rules) after a year.
"HOA’a are Nazi organizations."
You shouldn't be using such smear with ease. As a conservative, I presume you abide by the Ten Commandments. Well, one them tells us not to serve as false witness. And yet you do with an amazing ease: you defame entire groups of people without even bothering to hear their side and what the issue actually is. Shame on you.
"I still can’t believe how anti child some of the Freepers are."
This only confirms what I said earlier. Not only you fail to stand on a position of principle, you can't even recognize when someone else does. You consequently assume that, since you are on the side of the child and someone disagrees with you, that person (me) must be anti-child.
You take sides rather than stand for justice. That too is amazing to see in a conservative: have you not heard that "we are the country of laws, not men?" What do those words mean to you if not a prescription NOT TO TAKE SIDES but stand for law as applies to all.
Just to confirm that you are an equal-opportunity offender you proceed to imply that I am anti-children. Just like that. No questions, no discussion. I am anti-children.
What the h-ll do you know about me, Mr(s). "Conservative?" Never mind that you will never know how wrong you are in this case, the hardships I lived through for the last 30 years just for my child's sake. But what gives you the right to defame people like that.
You HABITUALLY serve as false witness. Either continue to do so and stop kidding yourself that you are conservative, or be a conservative and stop serving as false witness. Please think about that.
You nailed it. Senior communities are exempt from certain familial status provisions in the Fair Housing laws. If inheriting your grandchildren may be in the cards, one would be advised to avoid these communities.
Then you assumed incorrectly. Maybe you should have paid more attention to the conversation or, at the very least, the post that I was replying to when I made the comment. I’m very sorry you didn’t and got yourself all upset for nothing.
This is hardly zero tolerance, the girl has lived there for 5 years and even now the President of the HOA is willing to work out a compromisewhich is the right thing to do. Get over your faux indignation..
Do you think they should just ignore the rule forever?
and to the Oldie Cop
I sincerely hope you are not a cop in my city. You sir do not make the rules/ laws, You enforce them.
You sound like odumbo, you think rules are only ok if you say they are.
Some HOAs are created after the fact, kind of like a village becoming incorporated away from the county and becoming a self governing group...................
Bruinator: "I still can’t believe how anti child some of the Freepers are."
TNDandelion: "lol Never fear...some of us are anti-cranky old people."What other conclusions should I have made? Or did someone sneak in and type that on your computer while you weren't looking?
I wouldn’t want to live in a community with a HOA either, but I wouldn’t sign on the dotted line if I didn’t want to honor the contract.
I would like a reply from some of the pro HOA folks here.
What would be a suitable solution. They have their house for sale, and at a reduced rate. The HOA wants them to leave, and they want to go. Their house hasn’t sold yet. So should the 6 year old be evicted. What happens to their house if they’re forced to move before it sells.
This statement was not all inclusive and neither was mine. Both statements made were specific to a group of people within a larger group.
If you identified with that smaller group, that is your business but you are in the minority as far as my experience and family members are concerned.
I was just about to say that! I remember, years ago here in NY, when I still lived in the City, that the new owner of what could only be termed an abandoned building, wanted to tear it down and build something new that he could offer for rental units.
Well...it seems that some bums had taken up residence in said building, and took the owner to court, saying that since he didn’t start eviction proceedings as soon as he learned about their presence, they had “implied consent” for them to stay there. It took years to sort it out, but here’s the kicker: the reason the owner didn’t start the proceedings was to give the bums time to find somewhere else to go. The bums won the case because the owner warned them in advance that the building was to be demolished.
So...the poor sucker who wanted to be nice, got fleeced by our judicial system. That’ll teach him!
Regards,
Don't they care about their community?
Generally, under 55+ rules, the 30 year old son would be allowed to live there. It’s no one under 19. We had a few couples who had much younger wives, maybe in their 40s. As long as one of the couple on the deed is over 55, it’s ok.
Legally, the son could probably live with them. I worked at a 55+ community for awhile. We had several couples who had wives in their 40s - as long as one of the couple is over 55, they can have any over-19 years of age people live with them that they want. Now if they don’t want him there, that’s one thing. But he’s legally an adult and if they want him to live with them, they can.
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