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1 posted on 10/23/2009 4:53:31 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

10 bucks says they were sleeping.


2 posted on 10/23/2009 4:55:03 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Dumb and dumber.


3 posted on 10/23/2009 4:57:17 AM PDT by Infidel Heather (In God I trust, not the Government.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Were the pilot and co-pilot married?

I know I have missed an off ramp or two while trying not to argue with the wife.


5 posted on 10/23/2009 4:57:45 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

They can kiss their piloting career goodbye.


7 posted on 10/23/2009 5:04:33 AM PDT by Dacula (Evil succeeds when good men do nothing. Lets do something.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Federal officials are investigating whether pilot fatigue might have played a role, but an NTSB spokesman, Keith Holloway, said the idea that the crew may have fallen asleep was "speculative".

I often has a loss of "situational awareness" after supper while watching the TV, but at least I'm not piloting a jet aircraft.

11 posted on 10/23/2009 5:10:42 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd: ON)
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To: Erik Latranyi

There was a significant problem at the Minneapolis airport on Tuesday, as most flights were delayed.

Perhaps they were expecting a delay in landing on time ....


12 posted on 10/23/2009 5:11:09 AM PDT by ADSUM (Democracy works when citizens get involved and keep government honest.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
"they lost situational awareness"

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13 posted on 10/23/2009 5:11:25 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If you cant tell if I'm being sarcastic...maybe I'm not.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

The friendly skies are so safe...


14 posted on 10/23/2009 5:14:21 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Erik Latranyi

I once went on business trip with a guy who was a private pilot and brought along a hand held GPS (which constantly gave the wrong altitude in a pressurized cabin because is believed the barometric altimeter more than the GPS). They’re lucky they didn’t have someone like that on board.


15 posted on 10/23/2009 5:14:27 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The People have abdicated our duties; ... and anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses)
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To: Erik Latranyi

They’ve already admitted how it happened... the crew was engaged in a “heated discussion over airline policy” and lost situational awareness.
http://www.twincities.com/topstories/ci_13619032?nclick_check=1


17 posted on 10/23/2009 5:30:26 AM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: Erik Latranyi

must be democrats


18 posted on 10/23/2009 5:47:46 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Erik Latranyi
Drunk Airline Pilot

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21 posted on 10/23/2009 5:57:58 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Erik Latranyi

“”They were in a heated discussion over airline policy and they lost situational awareness,”

Whoever can utter BS like that; has a great future making infomercials.

They were sleeping.


25 posted on 10/23/2009 6:27:31 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just say no to Soylent Green health care)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I guess the scrambling Canadian fighter planes gave them their first clue?


27 posted on 10/23/2009 6:37:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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As a side note:

Aviation ping.

Flight School Bills White House, DNC for Revenue Lost to TFR

October 22, 2009 — Temporary flight restrictions (TFRs) due to the movement of the President of the United States or other high-level officials have become a common disruption to general aviation since 9/11. TFRs essentially halt many general aviation activities, like flight training, but GA businesses affected by the shutdowns haven’t often attempted to collect their lost revenue. When Oakland Flyers, a flight school based at Oakland International Airport, had to cease operations for 17 hours during last week’s visit to the Bay Area by President Obama to attend a fundraiser, owner Jim Gray decided to invoice the White House and the Democratic National Committee, (DNC) which hosted the event, in attempt to collect lost revenue.

“We invoiced lost revenue for the aircraft rental and for the flight instructors which are paid independently,” Gray said. “The flight instructors lost money on this deal as well. They get paid by the students directly. We put together an invoice for both items.”

The invoice totaled $2,565 for 10 canceled flights, which had been scheduled from late afternoon on October 15 until 10 a.m. the next day. Even though the airport’s location is clear across San Francisco Bay from the president’s physical location in downtown San Francisco, it was still inside the 10-mile no-fly ring, meaning all training flights were grounded during the TFR. Gray feels it’s not fair for his business to be shut down for an extended period of time due to a partisan function, as opposed to official government business, which a reason he would more readily accept. He also takes issue with the fact that airline and cargo operations were allowed to continue operations because they operate under instrument flight rules.

Reaction in the GA community has been very supportive according to the numerous e-mails Gray has received from across the country. “There are flight schools that have also been affected by these kinds of things,” Gray said. “Pilots are thinking that these TFRs are punitive to general aviation for really no valid reason. By doing this (sending the invoice), maybe it will raise some attention for everybody to put in their two cents and we’ll see what happens.”

Gray says the DNC did contact the flight school to inquire about the dollar amount of the invoice, but he has not personally spoken to anyone. The DNC did not return calls to EAA.org regarding this story.


29 posted on 10/23/2009 6:39:39 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Erik Latranyi

Did the passengers get the extra 300 frequent flyer miles?


34 posted on 10/23/2009 6:51:44 AM PDT by xone
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